stumfelter 3,034 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So religion wants me to worship an all powerful being that decides in his wisdom to subject kids to cancer and other awful and painful diseases? Think I'll have to give that one a miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,256 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 (edited) Wilf I never have or never will have a grip on things on this subject and many others lol but that in its self drives me to question everything and not just accept what we are told ...the scientists will tell you it all started from a singularity this a technical term for haven't got a fecking clue lol Couldnt agree more.......why do people seem to have such a hang up about saying " im not really sure about this ".......i,ll have my views and stick to them until more research and more info causes for a re - think.......thats the basics of how we learn isnt it ?...............makes you laugh how folk who question things and explore are told they are nutters by people who keep their eyes and ears firmly closed ! Edited May 7, 2016 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 So religion wants me to worship an all powerful being that decides in his wisdom to subject kids to cancer and other awful and painful diseases? Think I'll have to give that one a miss. How can you say that mate, that God subjects kids to cancer, when you don't believe in God? Very strange. From my point of view, its mans fault for sickness an death, contaminated, food, water, envoirment, medicine, pesticides, herbicides, etc, the list is endless, how about taking some responsibility for mans actions, instead of blaming something you apparently don't believe in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I don't really think of myself as as a silly man, other may disagree, but I don't think I am. I like to think I have a little bit of brain in my nut, and having thought about these things pretty deeply for a long time I have faith in something that can't be proven because it makes sense to me. Now what pisses me off is when: A. You get people slagging people like me and those same people clearly are talking about church when they they think they are talking about God.......I mean come on, if you don't know your arse from your elbow enough to realise the difference maybe you shouldn't be slating people off.? B. People talk down to you like you are an idiot because you have faith in something that can't be proven then talk about big/bang and evolution like it can be proven......which actually, it can't ! It's a bit rich to be Billy big bollocks about "proof" when actually, nothing about the creation of the world and the universe can be proven. Do people actually stop and think about it?......or is it just the same fashionable "bash the God bloke" bollocks ..........I dont know how many Mormons there are in the world but I can tell you this, there's a f***ing whole smorgasbord of morons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 IMO wilf they've been deceived, they may say the same about me an you but we can admit we have faith an beleif, that's the difference. There's such a bombardment from TV, tinternet, films, an schools, its crazy, this bollocks evolution is being taught to our kids in school now, an its not even science, Its a religion an belief but there trying there best to make it fit but its slowly dieing a hard death. IMO in the near future it will be looked back as a big hoax or cult that tryed to invade science. There savouir is time, if they ain't got time they've nothing, that's why its important to scientifically show the earth is relatively young, an it can be done, it has been done, but the masters have done a good job at ridiculing anyone who believes in a young earth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I'm not trying to convince people that God exists, everyone can make there own mind up, an happy days for that. I just hate all the lies, especially to the kids, science is great, evolution is not, an its taxpayer funded eh, what a joke. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 I reckon folk should worry more about themselves than about a God we will likely never see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North Briton 31 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 .............and after all these words......it remains,in the end......as it was in the beginning.....BULLSHIT..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 What annoys me sometimes is that the scientists atheists whatever, some not all, think bb evolution etc is science fact, when its far from it, was never seen, nor tested, or observed, an never will, so its not science. Billions of years ago lol Its a belief, but they won't admit it. At least we can admit our belief. If we can manipulate the genetics of animals and plants through selective breeding,why would the natural selection not lead to genetic changes too? And through the generations change an entire species,look what we've done to the wolf in just a few thousand years,imagine how far a species could change in a million years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,186 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 My god lives in a Romanian pussy and is called George. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,034 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 So religion wants me to worship an all powerful being that decides in his wisdom to subject kids to cancer and other awful and painful diseases? Think I'll have to give that one a miss. How can you say that mate, that God subjects kids to cancer, when you don't believe in God? Very strange. From my point of view, its mans fault for sickness an death, contaminated, food, water, envoirment, medicine, pesticides, herbicides, etc, the list is endless, how about taking some responsibility for mans actions, instead of blaming something you apparently don't believe in. So god created the universe and everything in it but mankind created disease and famine and anything else you decide doesn't fit in with your opinion? Churches should start selling rose tinted glasses they'd do a roaring trade! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 It's alright saying "why don't God stop these things"........well, why don't WE stop these things? Mankind, always wanting somebody else to wipe it's arse ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North Briton 31 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 ..................GOD.................WHEN DOES THE WORLD END..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 So religion wants me to worship an all powerful being that decides in his wisdom to subject kids to cancer and other awful and painful diseases? Think I'll have to give that one a miss.How can you say that mate, that God subjects kids to cancer, when you don't believe in God? Very strange.From my point of view, its mans fault for sickness an death, contaminated, food, water, envoirment, medicine, pesticides, herbicides, etc, the list is endless, how about taking some responsibility for mans actions, instead of blaming something you apparently don't believe in. So god created the universe and everything in it but mankind created disease and famine and anything else you decide doesn't fit in with your opinion? Churches should start selling rose tinted glasses they'd do a roaring trade! Yes mate, have a look at the people around the world that live to hundred even longer, there diet an envoirment, that should give you a clue were I'm coming from. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 What annoys me sometimes is that the scientists atheists whatever, some not all, think bb evolution etc is science fact, when its far from it, was never seen, nor tested, or observed, an never will, so its not science. Billions of years ago lol Its a belief, but they won't admit it. At least we can admit our belief. If we can manipulate the genetics of animals and plants through selective breeding,why would the natural selection not lead to genetic changes too? And through the generations change an entire species,look what we've done to the wolf in just a few thousand years,imagine how far a species could change in a million years. More funny photos mate lol From wolf to bag of fur is mans manipulation, not natural selection, natural selection selects what's available, it doesn't create any new information does it, that ball of fur is far from a wolf but its still a DOG is it not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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