God

[WILF 47,353]

 

It's odd because over the years my opinions have changed, part of being an agnostic I suppose? The alien route has some merit and is plausible, but then begs the question how did the aliens develop? The simple truth of the matter is anyone can choose to believe what they like, and no one can disprove them. If believing in an omnipotent god gives you the strength to live from day to day in a good way, then no one, no matter what they believe should knock a person for that belief.

 

TC

Bit silly still is'nt it lol

Would thinking up any random belief be just as acceptable to you, like worshiping an empty shoe box or something.

Your right, it sounds almost as ludicrous as believing a bowl of water can change into an elephant if you just give it enough time........oh hold on, sorry!

[Francie 6,368]

Seems to me the only people who seem to worry about the existence or none existence of god are those who don't believe, if you don't believe don't be concerned and leave those who do believe, to believe in at their leisure without having to explain their beliefs to non believers

Fair play del

[WILF 47,353]

Right hands up, I can't explain my non scientific belief......so, given that all the people who mock me and people like me accept scientific fact please explain this.......

 

I will skip a few billion years and all the complicated stuff like "how can all the genetic information to produce a giant redwood fit into a seed the size of a 5p bit and that its just a fortunate accident"

 

Let's go back to atoms.......where did they come from?

[kanny 20,667]

Right hands up, I can't explain my non scientific belief......so, given that all the people who mock me and people like me accept scientific fact please explain this.......

I will skip a few billion years and all the complicated stuff like "how can all the genetic information to produce a giant redwood fit into a seed the size of a 5p bit and that its just a fortunate accident"

Let's go back to atoms.......where did they come from?

E=mc2

[WILF 47,353]

Nope, sorry mate......you will have to put it in layman a terms.

 

Alright let me expand.......scientists say that (in theory!!!) we just expanded into existence from nothing......they can't explain how.

 

And yes, you did read me right that's NOTHING !

 

So nothing (THATS NOTHING!!!) can instantly become something........and you (not you in paticular Kanny) have a grip on things and I don't yeah?

 

I know I can't prove mine and admit it, you can't prove yours but think you can?.......tell me, who's the dick lads ?

Edited May 6, 2016 by WILF

[kanny 20,667]

E=mc2 just means energy and matter/mass are the same this is a copy and paste but explains it fairly simply .....According to the Big Bang theory, during the first few minutes after the "beginning," hydrogen, helium, and lithium nuclei formed from the relatively small number of free protons and neutrons that were around. When the universe was around 380,000 years old electrons were able to combine with the nuclei to create atoms. Since that time, some of the hydrogen and helium has combined to form stars and galaxies. The many other elements that we find on Earth were formed in large stars and then released as the stars burned all their fuel and blew up at the end oftheir lives (i.e. went supernova)

Edited May 6, 2016 by kanny

[WILF 47,353]

So it all just appeared and yet I'm the nut? Lol lol

[kanny 20,667]

So it all just appeared and yet I'm the nut? Lol lol

Don't think I've ever called you a nut wilf in fact I'm very curious about the creator theory there's a lot going for it but I just can't swallow the biblical versions of god/God's ..I just don't believe we are being individually judged

[delswal 3,819]

E=mc2 just means energy and matter/mass are the same this is a copy and paste but explains it fairly simply .....According to the Big Bang theory, during the first few minutes after the "beginning," hydrogen, helium, and lithium nuclei formed from the relatively small number of free protons and neutrons that were around. When the universe was around 380,000 years old electrons were able to combine with the nuclei to create atoms. Since that time, some of the hydrogen and helium has combined to form stars and galaxies. The many other elements that we find on Earth were formed in large stars and then released as the stars burned all their fuel and blew up at the end oftheir lives (i.e. went supernova)

I don't believe in god, but after that explanation, Wilf you got any spare seats in your church mate? lol

[Mr Wasp 187]

Seems to me the only people who seem to worry about the existence or none existence of god are those who don't believe, if you don't believe don't be concerned and leave those who do believe, to believe in at their leisure without having to explain their beliefs to non believers

All well and good until a particular religion sees fit to try and impose their beliefs on everyone else.

 

Personally i think it's up to each person to believe what they like, if it makes them feel better to believe in God, aliens or whatever, that is their choice.

 

Having said all that, what would a person believe in if they were born into the world having no contact with another human?

 

Would they insinctly believe in a higher being, or would they just view the world as is?

[kanny 20,667]

Wilf I never have or never will have a grip on things on this subject and many others lol but that in its self drives me to question everything and not just accept what we are told ...the scientists will tell you it all started from a singularity this a technical term for haven't got a fecking clue lol

[shepp 2,285]

 

 

It's odd because over the years my opinions have changed, part of being an agnostic I suppose? The alien route has some merit and is plausible, but then begs the question how did the aliens develop? The simple truth of the matter is anyone can choose to believe what they like, and no one can disprove them. If believing in an omnipotent god gives you the strength to live from day to day in a good way, then no one, no matter what they believe should knock a person for that belief.

 

TC

 

Bit silly still is'nt it lol

Would thinking up any random belief be just as acceptable to you, like worshiping an empty shoe box or something.

If it gives people strength then all the power too them. But it was a shit stupid question, and totally out of context in this thread.

 

TC

No you are talking out your arse, it was absolutely in context with the thread and with your post.

[Francie 6,368]

What annoys me sometimes is that the scientists atheists whatever, some not all, think bb evolution etc is science fact, when its far from it, was never seen, nor tested, or observed, an never will, so its not science.

 

Billions of years ago lol

 

Its a belief, but they won't admit it.

 

At least we can admit our belief.

[Francie 6,368]

IMHO this bb evolotion belief is holding back science, it has no application in science.

[WILF 47,353]

 

 

 

It's odd because over the years my opinions have changed, part of being an agnostic I suppose? The alien route has some merit and is plausible, but then begs the question how did the aliens develop? The simple truth of the matter is anyone can choose to believe what they like, and no one can disprove them. If believing in an omnipotent god gives you the strength to live from day to day in a good way, then no one, no matter what they believe should knock a person for that belief.

 

TC

Bit silly still is'nt it lol

Would thinking up any random belief be just as acceptable to you, like worshiping an empty shoe box or something.

If it gives people strength then all the power too them. But it was a shit stupid question, and totally out of context in this thread.

 

TC

No you are talking out your arse, it was absolutely in context with the thread and with your post.

So what do you believe about the universe, the world and how life came to be on it ?