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[philpot 5,038]

You are a tease Matt

[Rez 4,961]

 

Thanks for your comments guys but I think as my only springer experience was my old Meteor which is not even in the league of TX or HW rifles. I could see from the start, the TX was a serious gun and if I am being honest, I would like to own one as I certainly have the time to practice as a retired old tart and it would be a challenge to master the dark art of springers.

 

I guess my HW100 is so smooth with no felt recoil, the difference between that and the TX was just a bit of an eye opener. As underdog says, there are some light and cheaper guns to be had but whilst I am not a tackle tart (honest) I do want quality kit which the HW and TX come straight into that sector and I know if I bought a cheap break barrel, I would want to upgrade before long. The other aspect as Jimmy says, these guns will benefit from a tune up job so again the top end kit has been successfully worked on by many people/RFD's to produce a quality outfit.

 

It is a shame the scope on this gun was crap because I may well have walked away with a very different view although I think a bit of coaching in this dark art would also help somewhat.

 

A question boys, do you generally fit a mod to these guns when used for hunting.

 

Phil

Right hears some thing to ponder over

 

a bit of coaching

 

Im off back to Simon's in a few weeks to drop off his hw77 stock why don't you come over to his im sure he would not mind and you could have the best spring rifle man show you how its done

 

He really is amazing to watch

 

You all ready live in lincs and if you have no transport ill pick you up and drop you back when the day is done

 

have a word with Simon and see what he say,s before buying any thing

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

 

Im in

[philpot 5,038]

Okay my interest is fully awakened to a TX 200 so I am popping back to the RFD tomorrow, time allowing, to take a closer look at the two guns he has in stock.Both guns are .22 which is fine and both are 250 quid and I think both are carbine.

 

One has this naff AGS scope but apart from that, what do I need to look for as I have no knowledge of these guns and is the price about right. Any advice would be most welcome guys.

 

Oh yes, one other thing, if I buy one of these guns and we find it is not so sweet, just how big a job is it to tune and who could do it.

 

Phil

[Rez 4,961]

Okay my interest is fully awakened to a TX 200 so I am popping back to the RFD tomorrow, time allowing, to take a closer look at the two guns he has in stock.Both guns are .22 which is fine and both are 250 quid and I think both are carbine.

One has this naff AGS scope but apart from that, what do I need to look for as I have no knowledge of these guns and is the price about right. Any advice would be most welcome guys.

Oh yes, one other thing, if I buy one of these guns and we find it is not so sweet, just how big a job is it to tune and who could do it.

Phil

Stripping and the sorting internally of a TX is a walk in the park mate. It's one bolt basically and you could do it. If you "need" to tune a TX within the first 2 years I'll be surprised. There good to go. Quite literally. To be honest, you have to be pretty epically into FT or HFT to need to tune a TX too. They run on synthetics internally, so no shiny to shiny contact. It'll be sweet, especially in twenty two.

 

I'm not sure on your entire thread here but assume it's not brand new? This could be for the better as the rifle would be run in good and proper if the previous owner has looked after it. If it is new, again, a good thing, you bed it in. All in all Phil, If it's not grouping well... It isn't the rifle

 

I used to pull my plonker over TX's when I was a kid, but then shot a lazaglide 97. Hence why I've not owned my own TX, but had a PS. And that was mint.

 

Whatever you do, get it, shoot it, and keep shooting it. The rewards of shooting a springer outragiousley out way PCP's.

[philpot 5,038]

They are second hand Rez and I totally agree that springers will offer a bigger challenge and something I need to work at to become any good with. I would have liked to shoot one with a decent scope on before I buy one but hey ho, I am not messing around taking my varmint scope off my HW100 just for a test.

 

Phil

[pianoman 3,587]

Try to get a really proper test of the feel, handling and accuracy of any rifle you like the look of before you buy it Philpot. TX200 in .22 is a rifle I know well and owned one for ten years. I could put any amount of pellets on pellets at a target range of 40 metres. Yet when I went out to hunt rabbits with it, I kept missing! I never could work out why that was. But, along came a very sweet HW97KT .177 and the TX200 .22 was traded in for it.

 

Then, I traded the Weihrauch KT Thumbhole stock for the Bavaria Sporter stock of the K model which suits me infinitely better and I'm absolutely thrilled to bits every time I take it out.

 

Meanwhile,,, I had infinitely greater luck with a TX200HC .177 that turned out to be one of the best rifles of my life. But I put a beautiful Bushnell Scopechief 4-14x50 AO scope on it and it was a marriage made in heaven. I couldn't miss a thing with that combination. A cheap scope will not perform as a really top quality scope will.

 

But along came my HW77 .22...And that rifle, along with my incredible HW80 .22 and HW97K .177 taught me a valuable, important and never-to-be-forgotten lesson in my shooting life....

 

I'm a Weihrauch spring rifle man till the day I die.

 

Still, an Air Arms Prosport is the Holy Grail of spring rifles for me. But I'm a left handed lad and that rifle is not available to us south-paws..Hence, it's the Holy Grail of spring rifles to me.

 

I've craved, pined and wanted one since it first appeared in the 1990s. :cray: :cray:

 

Still dreaming....

[bigmac 97kt 13,813]

Try to get a really proper test of the feel, handling and accuracy of any rifle you like the look of before you buy it Philpot. TX200 in .22 is a rifle I know well and owned one for ten years. I could put any amount of pellets on pellets at a target range of 40 metres. Yet when I went out to hunt rabbits with it, I kept missing! I never could work out why that was. But, along came a very sweet HW97KT .177 and the TX200 .22 was traded in for it.

 

Then, I traded the Weihrauch KT Thumbhole stock for the Bavaria Sporter stock of the K model which suits me infinitely better and I'm absolutely thrilled to bits every time I take it out.

 

Meanwhile,,, I had infinitely greater luck with a TX200HC .177 that turned out to be one of the best rifles of my life. But I put a beautiful Bushnell Scopechief 4-14x50 AO scope on it and it was a marriage made in heaven. I couldn't miss a thing with that combination. A cheap scope will not perform as a really top quality scope will.

 

But along came my HW77 .22...And that rifle, along with my incredible HW80 .22 and HW97K .177 taught me a valuable, important and never-to-be-forgotten lesson in my shooting life....

 

I'm a Weihrauch spring rifle man till the day I die.

 

Still, an Air Arms Prosport is the Holy Grail of spring rifles for me. But I'm a left handed lad and that rifle is not available to us south-paws..Hence, it's the Holy Grail of spring rifles to me.

 

I've craved, pined and wanted one since it first appeared in the 1990s. :cray: :cray:

 

Still dreaming....

Iv got some thing in mind for a pro sport right handed to a lefty if it works ,

 

for you Simon im picking a pro sport stock up tonight as a gift off a friend and im going to see if my idea works

 

if it dose the stock is yours all you need to do is buy an action for her .

 

 

Phil make sure when you cock the rifle there is no noise from the cycle of the action

 

it should be smooth with no grinding what so ever

 

ask if you can have a few shots of them and listen to the firing cycle make sure there is no twang if one of them is not right you will here it,,it just sounds like a twang honest if you here this then that rifle will need sorted but its not the end of the world a De grease and re grease with some good grease will sort her .

 

Make sure the bear trap is releasing the under leaver properly now this can be a bit fiddly at the best of times and takes some getting used to but once you have master,d it there a doddle to use and will become second nature to you to a point you will not think about it when loading .

 

Make sure the blueing is ok no scratches or dings in it Dont worry about the stock i can sort that out for you lol

 

O< and tell the rfd you will buy the rifle IF HE WILL CHANGE THE SCOPE ON IT FOR YOU

 

Even a nicko sterling is better than a ags scope

 

if he wants a sale he will do this for you .

 

and ask for a free tin of pellets as well

 

I think you have made the right choice

 

One thing i will say is once you get to where you want to be with the spring rifle and you think you have mastered it then think again you ALL WAYS HAVE TO PRACTICE with her just to keep your self up to standard .

 

Once you click with it you will think why did i not get one years ago

 

lol

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[philpot 5,038]

Right Simon and Jimmy, a few things to think about there chaps. I had wondered about a Weihrauch because I love the quality of my 100 and may decide to have a good look around before jumping in and perhaps it might be more beneficial to sit and talk with you two prior to making that purchase, at the end of the day, I no longer have a nice salary coming in so I need to ensure I make the right choice.

 

We are off to Highlodge in Suffolk on the 14th for the week and it will be the last time I shoot my Berretta DT10 sporter shotgun as I have decided to sell her when we get home so I will have some spare cash which perhaps is a better plan. There is also a real old fashioned RFD there where the guys in the shop wear brown smocks, it is like stepping back in time and they have a huge selection of guns to look through, worth a visit I think.

 

http://highlodge.co.uk/

 

Phil

Edited May 5, 2016 by philpot

[bigmac 97kt 13,813]

Hw 97s all day long in any cal

 

once fettle,d nothing better in my honest opinion

 

Next would be the pro sport its a well balanced rifle and the same as the tx out the box

 

but i think its better than the tx no bear trap to contend with and deadly accurate

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[philpot 5,038]

Right you have just helped me decide Jimmy, I will not buy the TX until I have at least tried some HW rifles but the prosport, well I have never even seen one.

 

Phil

 

Just had a look at the 97, quite similar to the TX £440 new, see what I can find s/h, not sure about another .177 or a .22, Oh god here we go.................................................

 

 

Just found this one http://southertonguns.com/weihrauch-hw97k-22-air-rifle/

 

 

I'm in love but a bit more than I want to pay however a lovely 77 http://www.duncansgunmakers.co.uk/pre_owned/spring_air/images/HW77Lam.jpg

Edited May 5, 2016 by philpot

[philpot 5,038]

One for you Simon, the sixth one down, a lefty custom stock 77

 

http://www.shootingsupplies.info/gunroom.html

 

Sorry, it wont go straight to the gun but select air rifles and the 77 custom lefty is the sixth one down the list

 

Phil

Edited May 5, 2016 by philpot

[charlie caller 3,654]

Well I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of the .177 tx 200 lh that Simon has kindly sold me, it will be my first tx I have had a prosport and it was a cracking gun, but there is just something about the cocking action I dont care for on pro sports, if you get a 97 either tune it or get it tuned as they are twangy and not very well finished internally from the factory, the other one to look at is the Walther lgu, they are the smoothest quietest springer out of the box bar none, and the lock time is something to experience, it really is, and accuracy is superb, and unusually for a springer the .177s seem to have better manners than .22, whatever you get, with practice you will be as deadly with a springer as any pcp, and the satisfaction is tenfold.

[bigmac 97kt 13,813]

Here you go Phil

 

Pro sport

 

under leaver tucks into the stock

 

atvbmac :thumbs:

[philpot 5,038]

oooohhhh really pretty, me likeyyyy.

 

Am I right in thinking that they are a little lighter at the barrel than a 97 / 77 with the under lever tucked away .

Edited May 5, 2016 by philpot

[bigmac 97kt 13,813]

Yes but with the under leaver being tucked away it balances the rifle perfect

 

atvbmac :thumbs: