Guest reload Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Cant you lot all see, its about the dog not 100% about the breeds used. Yes a working bred collie Grey is more likely going to be far better than a huge 32inch deerhound. But if you can get a pup from two line bred dogs which have both caught and work rabbits all there life theres a better chance of getting a good rabbit dog?? Does it matter what cross as long as it does the job. This whole, 'such and such a cross is better argument is a load of shite' I would opt for a good proven line bred lurcher any day Link to post
Guest reload Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) My point is, it may not be such and such a cross makes the best rabbit dog..If it was true all the rabbiters would have this certain cross If the question is what is the best dog for rabbits, then surly the answer is, a dog that can catch them a plenty. wether thats a bedlington X or collie X its not important IMO just personal taste But yes a good dash of collie wont hurt Edited December 4, 2007 by reload Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 This is a good rabbit catching dog: lurcher to lurcher for generation upon generation: and yes, there is probably Collie, Beddie, and of course Greyhound, but there is also definitely Saluki, Whippet, Deerhound and all sorts of other breeds too numerous to mention here! Like Reload said, they have been bred worker to worker for over 50 years (no, not 400 and my name is not Burrell LOL), but the point being that it is the breeding from good hunting and catching stock that is important. I bred the size down and this bitch's grandmother was 28 1/2 inches: she is just 23 inches and perfect for the job: if you breed from stock with enough speed, a good strike, commitment and brains and soundness of body then you won't go far wrong. Let's face it no one worried about what breeds went into a lurcher in the old days, the only thing that mattered was if it could do the job: some people wanted hare dogs, others rabbit dogs etc etc. Link to post
Guest SJM Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Whenever I am having a shit day I come on here and listen to everyone talking bollocks and it cheers me up no end I wouldnt mind a dog that can chase a hare for 10 mins I would like to see the tape as well Lamping rabbits has got to be one of the easiest occupations for a lurcher, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them can catch decent bags on the lamp, its no great feat. I'll probably get a barrage of abuse for saying that, so I will add that in my defence I lamp small fields where the rabbits are virtually untouched, and its pitch black where I live as its rural, so I maybe have an advantage over the urban masses who are lamping extremely wised-up bunnies on golf courses and urban farms in an amberish glow from the surrounding towns, whilst having to compete with many other lurcherfolk from the same area. But still, I stand by what I say, lamping is one of the easiest ways to procure a few rabbits with a lurcher dog - thats why so many people do it in preference to other dog sports Link to post
stork 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) just out of interest folks. wat in your view is the ultimate rabbit dog. for lamping and ferreting?? i personally thot that a whippet x would be best, just wanting other peoples opinions, and pics would be appreciated. cheers folks I http://i15.tinypic.com/81ga0k7.jpgjust got a beedyx whippet got him at 6weeks old hes now 9weeks old got him for lamping and ferretting Edited December 4, 2007 by stork Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Was on about this the other day Skycat im in total agreement the more years in a strain the better. Watched the video of that red dog on the hare the ther day it was a good hare never mind the dog i didnt reckon owt to the paki slamming it into the floor after Link to post
FLY 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 used to lamp rabbit up perthshire,i used collie greys my mate used whippet greys,beddie whippet and beddie whippet greys, i had 2 dogs over about 12 years i think my mate had a dozen whippet cross variations and spectacular as some were they only lasted a season or 2 because of big bags and in the 80s-90s perthshire was heaving with bags of 40 - 50+ a night possible,so agree with SJM IF LAMPING LOCAL GOLF COURSE AND SEMI URBAN LAMPING WITH MODEST BAGS WHIPPET CROSSES DEFINATELY THE HIGH PERFORMANCE CHOICE BUT IF IN HEAVY HILL COUNTRY COLLIE CROSS FOR ME,INFACT LOCAL TRAVELLERS THE STEWARTS USED REVERSE 3/4 COLLIE GREYS AND THEY TOOK BIG BAGS AT THAT TIME £1-£1.25 PER RABBIT THE GOOD OLD DAYS!-------------------------CAPS LOCK SORRY Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Whenever I am having a shit day I come on here and listen to everyone talking bollocks and it cheers me up no end I wouldnt mind a dog that can chase a hare for 10 mins I would like to see the tape as well Lamping rabbits has got to be one of the easiest occupations for a lurcher, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them can catch decent bags on the lamp, its no great feat. I'll probably get a barrage of abuse for saying that, so I will add that in my defence I lamp small fields where the rabbits are virtually untouched, and its pitch black where I live as its rural, so I maybe have an advantage over the urban masses who are lamping extremely wised-up bunnies on golf courses and urban farms in an amberish glow from the surrounding towns, whilst having to compete with many other lurcherfolk from the same area. But still, I stand by what I say, lamping is one of the easiest ways to procure a few rabbits with a lurcher dog - thats why so many people do it in preference to other dog sports Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Whenever I am having a shit day I come on here and listen to everyone talking bollocks and it cheers me up no end I wouldnt mind a dog that can chase a hare for 10 mins I would like to see the tape as well Lamping rabbits has got to be one of the easiest occupations for a lurcher, most dogs with a bit of greyhound in them can catch decent bags on the lamp, its no great feat. I'll probably get a barrage of abuse for saying that, so I will add that in my defence I lamp small fields where the rabbits are virtually untouched, and its pitch black where I live as its rural, so I maybe have an advantage over the urban masses who are lamping extremely wised-up bunnies on golf courses and urban farms in an amberish glow from the surrounding towns, whilst having to compete with many other lurcherfolk from the same area. But still, I stand by what I say, lamping is one of the easiest ways to procure a few rabbits with a lurcher dog - thats why so many people do it in preference to other dog sports "When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." Link to post
tattooed 3 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 just out of interest folks. wat in your view is the ultimate rabbit dog. for lamping and ferreting?? i personally thot that a whippet x would be best, just wanting other peoples opinions, and pics would be appreciated. cheers folks i think it comes down to what type of ground/terrain a dog is running and how genuine your dog is!!!plenty lurcherfolk exagerate too much about their own dogs.regarding beddiewhuppet imo i think his dog is 100%!!!!! Link to post
Guest SJM Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Thats very profound Doxhope, what the fucks it supposed to mean Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 F**k do I know, Remember Eric Cantona saying it at an interview after he kicked the shit out of a Crystal Palce fan..It stuck in my mind.. Link to post
thurso jack 3 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Thats very profound Doxhope, what the fucks it supposed to mean its a quote by football ledgend Eric Cantonoi, i think its meant be profound a beddy/whippet good for 10-20 in a night if your after more then a bigger dog is required. the ground i run is often hilly rough ground a small dog wouldnt see half of the rabbits never mind try and catch them. Link to post
beddiwhuppet 10 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 spoke to my bro he still has the tape ,if anyone,well,obvious a few are so narrow minded to see that these little flying machines cant catch a hare and keep the pace your welcome to come and see the tape all for your selves,i stay in the scottish borders,pm me if you want to see it for yourselves,i know a couple of boys on here, i will show it to them,they can vouch for me,the reason being i think the date may just be out,if you no what i mean,dont want to get into any trouble,just to show a bunch of twits what my dogs done, didnt realise this would all blow up like this,yes i do run my dog hard,maybe to hard but i make sure hes fit enough before i do it,i nearly lost him at the new year past,because of it, but learned alot about him,but is that not how you gain your experience ,by your bad experiences to all you non believers thats all i can say,hes not perfect by all means,he can be hard mouthed,but its good ferret food,its hard to get him to retrieve,but he catches and kills,i havnt seen the tape for long enough but il watch it again when my bro gets home to all the good dog men who actually know the capabilities of these coragous little hounds,to many people jude a book by its cover LOOK OF A LAMB HEART OF A LION, obviuosly if its not a lazy numpty at the end of the lead that has a lurcher for 5 minutes,and thinks he knows it all,good luck to those in the know Link to post
beddiwhuppet 10 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 just out of interest folks. wat in your view is the ultimate rabbit dog. for lamping and ferreting?? i personally thot that a whippet x would be best, just wanting other peoples opinions, and pics would be appreciated. cheers folks i think it comes down to what type of ground/terrain a dog is running and how genuine your dog is!!!plenty lurcherfolk exagerate too much about their own dogs.regarding beddiewhuppet imo i think his dog is 100%!!!!! thanks mate,youve seen him run a loore tell the dumb asses on here would you Link to post
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