king 11,972 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Could britains heavyweights handle this sort of power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Mike tyson was fine in later rounds. His problem was that he became a puncher that relied on stopping people with his power alone and threw his boxing out the window. Bar the travelling fighters do you follow much other boxing CushtyJook. Genuine question not having a go Yes I like Eubank knew like the little afgani yusuf safa Charlie Edwards boy Jones jnr lots of different fighters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Could britains heavyweights handle this sort of power Tbh Joshua more than likely hits harder than Tyson did. Tyson was a big hitter no doubt about that and a relative midget in the division. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,837 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Also fred kassi os terrible let's not kid on with that one. fred kassi took brazeale the distance in sept 2015,and lot of people thought he won that fight or should have a least got a draw 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Personally think Haye is the best heavy weight about at the minute. He'll beat all mentioned Imo only thing he don't like doing is fightis them big unnatural size men, that whyte would beat most of these names with more fittness and alittle more tech abilityDo you think Haye will beat Wvlad if he fought him again he had a bad toe last time or something Haye is a much better boxer than most of today's heavyweights just he's too small to mix it up with guys wlad and furys size Too small...yet he managed to take the WBA belt off 7ft Valuev with ease Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think some have got a little high on the Hearns/Joshuas hype...Joshuas a great athlete for sure...but he aint no superman...how i see it is if it took him 7 rounds to take out Dillian Whyte...there's better Heavyweights out there than Whyte... that will give him a tougher fight...if people think Joshua will just walk through the division they're in for a shock! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Valuev who hasn't fought since 2009 is one of today's heavyweights? just pointing out he is capable of handling much taller opponents Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Comparing David Haye and Mike Tyson as hard punchers is like comparing a Ferrari and a Wrx Impreza as fast cars........yes ultimately the goal is the same but the way its achieved is completely different..............Tyson was a ko artist Haye is not.......Tyson did not come out to win the rounds he came out to end the fight......his jab was virtually non existent.......David Haye doesnt have that type of explosiveness he has to fish for openings.......Haye comes out to win rounds and if the opportunity shows itself he has the power and accuracy to end a fight.......Tyson had no plan b. As for size Tyson struggled even early on with tall fighters Tucker/Green/Smith were all very tall for their time and took him the distance making him look bad.......he would of had nightmares with todays freaks.......Joshua is more like Tyson in terms of fully committing to getting an opponent out......he is all about the gamble,everything about him and his career is about committing to the risk thats why he is a promoters dream......as Tyson would be in todays times. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think some have got a little high on the Hearns/Joshuas hype...Joshuas a great athlete for sure...but he aint no superman...how i see it is if it took him 7 rounds to take out Dillian Whyte...there's better Heavyweights out there than Whyte... that will give him a tougher fight...if people think Joshua will just walk through the division they're in for a shock! Not sure who you are referring to mate but I do see Joshua as a good prospect and I particular like how he conducts himself and his "take one punch to land 5" type of attitude. He's a risk taker and a genuine fighting man, not a game player. And I like that. But I certainly don't think he's going to walk through the division. There are some decent heavyweights out there and I'm sure we haven't seen the best of them yet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think aj should be fighting some one who is going to take him to later rounds at this point in his career ,he is going to blow breazeale out within three rounds without a doubt and it would not surprise me if he did it in the first ,whats he going to learn from fights like this and why has Hughie fury never been mentioned to fight aj , I would like to see that fightWhat's he going to learn from getting dragged into later rounds? He's a fighter the aim is to go in and get your man out of there asap. Yes be fit and prepared to carry your trade to the later rounds if necessary but don't go looking for it. well he needs to fight someone who is going to test him and brazeales definitely not that man ,he is just going to walk through him The only men I could see even take AJ past half way at the moment are David Haye, Maybe Klitscho and Maybe Fury. Anyone else is going to get blown away early doors and be made to look like a journey man, bin man, half hearted or whatever people are calling his previous opponents. If I was AJ or his manager I would be lapping up these "easy fights" and just treating them like well paid sparring sessions until the time comes when he NEEDs to fight the bigger names. However, I can see the fans perspective, he's got a title belt now and they want to see him tested. No wernt directed just at you Gaz...more at what comes across as the A.J fan club in general...you say maybe only 3 take him over half way...i say if Whyte can there a good dozen in the division that can and can potentially give him problems...just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I think aj should be fighting some one who is going to take him to later rounds at this point in his career ,he is going to blow breazeale out within three rounds without a doubt and it would not surprise me if he did it in the first ,whats he going to learn from fights like this and why has Hughie fury never been mentioned to fight aj , I would like to see that fightWhat's he going to learn from getting dragged into later rounds? He's a fighter the aim is to go in and get your man out of there asap. Yes be fit and prepared to carry your trade to the later rounds if necessary but don't go looking for it. well he needs to fight someone who is going to test him and brazeales definitely not that man ,he is just going to walk through himThe only men I could see even take AJ past half way at the moment are David Haye, Maybe Klitscho and Maybe Fury. Anyone else is going to get blown away early doors and be made to look like a journey man, bin man, half hearted or whatever people are calling his previous opponents. If I was AJ or his manager I would be lapping up these "easy fights" and just treating them like well paid sparring sessions until the time comes when he NEEDs to fight the bigger names. However, I can see the fans perspective, he's got a title belt now and they want to see him tested. No wernt directed just at you Gaz...more at what comes across as the A.J fan club in general...you say maybe only 3 take him over half way...i say if Whyte can there a good dozen in the division that can and can potentially give him problems...just my opinion Yeh fair point. I would like to see Whyte fighting more myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) The whole reason that everything has come too early for Joshua is because he never got a chance to finish his boxing education the way guys like Fury or Klitchsko did.......never again will he get the luxury of learning fights to improve his basic ring intelligence and gain the vital ring generalship it takes to box your way around an opponent you cant knock out......hence his commitment to the knockout...............the risks this lad is taking in his career will be admired by other fighters and ignored by fans thats just how it is. Edited April 27, 2016 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Comparing David Haye and Mike Tyson as hard punchers is like comparing a Ferrari and a Wrx Impreza as fast cars........yes ultimately the goal is the same but the way its achieved is completely different..............Tyson was a ko artist Haye is not.......Tyson did not come out to win the rounds he came out to end the fight......his jab was virtually non existent.......David Haye doesnt have that type of explosiveness he has to fish for openings.......Haye comes out to win rounds and if the opportunity shows itself he has the power and accuracy to end a fight.......Tyson had no plan b. As for size Tyson struggled even early on with tall fighters Tucker/Green/Smith were all very tall for their time and took him the distance making him look bad.......he would of had nightmares with todays freaks.......Joshua is more like Tyson in terms of fully committing to getting an opponent out......he is all about the gamble,everything about him and his career is about committing to the risk thats why he is a promoters dream......as Tyson would be in todays times. Tyson didn't have a jab? He had a great jab whilst with Kevin Rooney IMO. Haye's style is nothing like Tyson but he is very explosive for a heavyweight and is a sharp shooter. Tyson struggled against those fighters? If winning just about every round is classed as struggling I'd hate to see him win easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Comparing David Haye and Mike Tyson as hard punchers is like comparing a Ferrari and a Wrx Impreza as fast cars........yes ultimately the goal is the same but the way its achieved is completely different..............Tyson was a ko artist Haye is not.......Tyson did not come out to win the rounds he came out to end the fight......his jab was virtually non existent.......David Haye doesnt have that type of explosiveness he has to fish for openings.......Haye comes out to win rounds and if the opportunity shows itself he has the power and accuracy to end a fight.......Tyson had no plan b. As for size Tyson struggled even early on with tall fighters Tucker/Green/Smith were all very tall for their time and took him the distance making him look bad.......he would of had nightmares with todays freaks.......Joshua is more like Tyson in terms of fully committing to getting an opponent out......he is all about the gamble,everything about him and his career is about committing to the risk thats why he is a promoters dream......as Tyson would be in todays times. Tyson didn't have a jab? He had a great jab whilst with Kevin Rooney IMO. Haye's style is nothing like Tyson but he is very explosive for a heavyweight and is a sharp shooter. Tyson struggled against those fighters? If winning just about every round is classed as struggling I'd hate to see him win easily. Winning easily would be ironing them out inside 3. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Tyson didn't have a jab? He had a great jab whilst with Kevin Rooney IMO. Haye's style is nothing like Tyson but he is very explosive for a heavyweight and is a sharp shooter. Tyson struggled against those fighters? If winning just about every round is classed as struggling I'd hate to see him win easily. People are giving off because it took Joshua 7 rounds to get Dillian Whyte out......can you imagine the shit they would give Tyson for being taken to a points decision by Mitch Green .......can you name me a fight where Tysons jab played any significant part in a fight ?.....he had a tiny reach and would continue to try to knock guys out until the 12th round simply because he didnt have the plan b to back off and get on his jab and jab the rounds out with opponents he couldnt ko. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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