Anthony Joshua V Dominic Breazeale

[bird 9,926]

 

Sorry not the best with words really, if all the men where roughly the same size couldn't lace Hayes shoes imo. He's just about better at dam near everything other than the other guys

I would go with that mate. His only draw back is his size, at 6' 2" and 15-16 stone he's on the bigger side of "everyday bloke". A lot of these bigger heavyweights dwarf him, not to mention the reach advantage they have.

 

and yet mike Tyson who was 5ft 11 1/2 16st , ko most he fought who were bigger than him , i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

[gnasher16 30,121]

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

Edited April 26, 2016 by gnasher16

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

Tyson didn't do too bad fighting much bigger opponents, just that Haye isn't skilled enough.

 

It's all good and well Haye saying this and that, the last time he fought a heavyweight with real power he ran for his life. What makes people think he would go out there and try and blast out a powerhouse in Joshua?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

not really or the worlds strongest men guys would be the champs, it technique speed and accuracy that lands the shot and power wont matter until youve enough of the others, AJ seems to have them all in spades though

[bird 9,926]

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

Tyson didn't do too bad fighting much bigger opponents, just that Haye isn't skilled enough.

 

It's all good and well Haye saying this and that, the last time he fought a heavyweight with real power he ran for his life. What makes people think he would go out there and try and blast out a powerhouse in Joshua?

 

i dont think he beat AJ, being honest as AJ take him out mid way in the fight, and Fury not big puncher so if he did ever fight him he only win haye on points , the point i was making Haye his taller and same weight as iron mike, and size didnt stop him beating other heavyweights, any man 15 st can knock out men 15-20st easy its speed. and being accurate does the damage. i done bit boxing and karate/ weights for 3 years, and sparred with blokes 3-4 st heavier than me, and ive rocked them many a time with my punches and only being 12 st 7lb , i could get my shots in quick than move out, ok if they catch yeh its good night lol. but the look on some of there faces said it all for me. a good ko puncher not just about being big , ok it helps, but technique

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

As for haye, I think hes plenty big enough for the HW and was capable of beating vlad if he had the minerals to go for broke, I think hes prob more dangerous now as he has nothing to lose and maybe learned from his mistakes, I dont think you can really compare him to tyson though as tyson was a powerhouse I dont think haye has the core strenght of tyson to stop the big fellas tieing him up he needs to keep his distance.

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

Tyson didn't do too bad fighting much bigger opponents, just that Haye isn't skilled enough.

 

It's all good and well Haye saying this and that, the last time he fought a heavyweight with real power he ran for his life. What makes people think he would go out there and try and blast out a powerhouse in Joshua?

i dont think he beat AJ, being honest as AJ take him out mid way in the fight, and Fury not big puncher so if he did ever fight him he only win haye on points , the point i was making Haye his taller and same weight as iron mike, and size didnt stop him beating other heavyweights, any man 15 st can knock out men 15-20st easy its speed. and being accurate does the damage. i done bit boxing and karate/ weights for 3 years, and sparred with blokes 3-4 st heavier than me, and ive rocked them many a time with my punches and only being 12 st 7lb , i could get my shots in quick than move out, ok if they catch yeh its good night lol. but the look on some of there faces said it all for me. a good ko puncher not just about being big , ok it helps, but technique

Of course if you're good enough you're big enough. Evander Holyfield was smaller than David Haye and was one of the best heavyweights of all time.

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

Who aj ? It doesn't take s genius to work out why not either

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

Who aj ? It doesn't take s genius to work out why not either

Apart from Wladamir, who would you have doubts about Joshua beating everyone Fury has?

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

Who aj ? It doesn't take s genius to work out why not either

Hughie fury has fought more fights with the same and lesser calibre of opponents and hasn't knockwd out anywhere near as much as aj. As for holyfield remember back in his day george foreman was known as BIG george at 6ft 2. Can't compare today's heavyweights to older ones they are to many freakishly big guys these days

I think Fred kassi who Hughie fury is facing this Saturday is a better opponent than anyone on anything Joshua's record plus you say about knockouts etc Hughie and aj have completely different sytles it's irrelevant

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

Who aj ? It doesn't take s genius to work out why not either

Apart from Wladamir, who would you have doubts about Joshua beating everyone Fury has?

I think chisora would give aj problems maybe not now but a few year ago when Derek wasn't as shot away after two losses to fury and one to Haye maybe not a doubt as I'm sure aj would beat Derek but have trouble with him

[CushtyJook 1,097]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think haye raw power would ko most heavy weights that are about today

 

Its like trying to fire a gun with no hands....the power to finish someone is right there at the trigger......its just setting up properly to pull it thats the hard part.

I agree with this. You gotta think Bird, these heavyweights are big lads regardless of wether they are a "biggun or smallun" so to speak. They could all KO anyone with a properly executed right hand. When you take their size, plus their experience and technique, added on top they train for power in them shots, KOs are at the end of the glove. But landing them shots is the hard part. Wether you're up against an awkward fighter like fury or an aggressive fighter like Joshua, it's not always that easy to "just bang them" as we've seen in recent fights.

Sadly a lot of people don't realise that it's all Joshua can ko anybody hell smash so and so yes he can ko anybody its landing people just think power is everything

Let's be honest he hasn't been struggling to land knockout shots thus far....

Who aj ? It doesn't take s genius to work out why not either

Hughie fury has fought more fights with the same and lesser calibre of opponents and hasn't knockwd out anywhere near as much as aj. As for holyfield remember back in his day george foreman was known as BIG george at 6ft 2. Can't compare today's heavyweights to older ones they are to many freakishly big guys these days

I think Fred kassi who Hughie fury is facing this Saturday is a better opponent than anyone on anything Joshua's record plus you say about knockouts etc Hughie and aj have completely different sytles it's irrelevant

Hughie is a big man who has fought the same level of opponent aj has (less in my opinion)and if it's as easy as you say for them to land shots hughie would have been getting more folk out of there.

Well power is obviously a vital player but Hughie is 21 years old and getting rounds in there's a difference we really don't know if aj can go a full 12 rounds yet and with all that muscle I would of thought he started to get tired Mike Tyson was never that good in later rounds