kanny 21,076 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 theres also a good vid on there of Shane Mcguigan taking David Haye on the pads...he's certainly not lost any of his power on that vegan diet!!...spend a good part of it repeatedly hooking off the left jab...and thats the punch that will finish Joshuas unbeaten run (if the Hearns ever let him near A.J)...in my opinion Don't you think the money making potential will make the fight happen that will be a big fight in the uk but I noticed Haye is already trying to beat fury to the fight buy saying things like if fury doesn't impress us against wvlad Joshua will favour fighting me what has Haye done to warrant a tilted shot from either fury or aj yet nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Cheers kanny thats the one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 21,076 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Cheers kanny thats the one I see what you mean ...you wouldent want one of them on yer chin ...I wouldent anyway 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Genuine question to you boys that actually fight/ box. It is in keeping with the thread (I hope). When a boxer trains for a fight, I would have thought he would train for the distance of the fight, and peak at the time of the fight? What happens if it is for an example a first round knock out? Where does his training go from there? As he has peaked for that particular fight, how long before he can start the cycle again? The same question for if the fight goes the distance? I understand that it would vary from fighter to fighter but is there a rule of thumb sort of thing where he has to wind down if you will, before he can start to train to reach a peak again? TC Tiercel most fighters like a minimum 10 week camp building up to a fight thats generally recognised as ideal preparation from normal healthy living weight.......when a fighter has a quick ko they will quite often spar 10 rounds a few days later as the peak is gone but their is still surplus energy to burn off.......after a mid - long distance fight most fighters will have a week off before getting back in the gym.......all fighters are different Joshua doesnt go much above his fighting weight month to month whereas a fighter like Fury i would think probably packs weight on between fights..... there is a lot of controversy between whether fighters get a higher peak bringing body weight down quickly or just maintaining and losing water weight a bit similar to conditioning your dog do you work him up to his highest peak or break him down to it all trainers have different opinions but again like your dog the personality and body type of your athlete has to be taken into account as everyone is different. All being equal Joshua could comfortably have a faster turn around between fights than a guy like Fury but ultimately the same goal is reached. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,846 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Saw Breazeal fight Mansour a while back...Mansour well into his 40's and about a foot shorter...put Brezeal on his arse...was well ahead til he pulled out with a cracked jaw?...Joshua should have him out nearly as quick as he did Martin...every new Champ allowed an easy first defense i suppose...but of the names being thrown around would of preferred to seen him in with Steiverne...dont think i will bother watching this i just see the fight between breazeal vs mansour, breazael didn't seem to look that impressive really, but the older guy manour looked pretty handy at 43 years old, so i watched a few more of his fights, and he looked a really good fighter, shame he isn't a younger guy now, and fight for the belts, he looked interesting, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Genuine question to you boys that actually fight/ box. It is in keeping with the thread (I hope). When a boxer trains for a fight, I would have thought he would train for the distance of the fight, and peak at the time of the fight? What happens if it is for an example a first round knock out? Where does his training go from there? As he has peaked for that particular fight, how long before he can start the cycle again? The same question for if the fight goes the distance? I understand that it would vary from fighter to fighter but is there a rule of thumb sort of thing where he has to wind down if you will, before he can start to train to reach a peak again? TC Tiercel most fighters like a minimum 10 week camp building up to a fight thats generally recognised as ideal preparation from normal healthy living weight.......when a fighter has a quick ko they will quite often spar 10 rounds a few days later as the peak is gone but their is still surplus energy to burn off.......after a mid - long distance fight most fighters will have a week off before getting back in the gym.......all fighters are different Joshua doesnt go much above his fighting weight month to month whereas a fighter like Fury i would think probably packs weight on between fights..... there is a lot of controversy between whether fighters get a higher peak bringing body weight down quickly or just maintaining and losing water weight a bit similar to conditioning your dog do you work him up to his highest peak or break him down to it all trainers have different opinions but again like your dog the personality and body type of your athlete has to be taken into account as everyone is different. All being equal Joshua could comfortably have a faster turn around between fights than a guy like Fury but ultimately the same goal is reached. Thank you, I knew someone who knew what they are talking about would be along at some point. Funnily enough it is recognised in falconry circles that a bird coming down to it's flying weight will be keener than a bird kept at it's flying weight, so that part made sense to me. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Saw Breazeal fight Mansour a while back...Mansour well into his 40's and about a foot shorter...put Brezeal on his arse...was well ahead til he pulled out with a cracked jaw?...Joshua should have him out nearly as quick as he did Martin...every new Champ allowed an easy first defense i suppose...but of the names being thrown around would of preferred to seen him in with Steiverne...dont think i will bother watching this i just see the fight between breazeal vs mansour, breazael didn't seem to look that impressive really, but the older guy manour looked pretty handy at 43 years old, so i watched a few more of his fights, and he looked a really good fighter, shame he isn't a younger guy now, and fight for the belts, he looked interesting, Breazeal looks to be on the same level as Martin...think the Hearns will have there work cut out selling this as a Pay per view...and to think Eddie was mouthing off about putting this on at Wembely as a rival to Fury-v-Klitschko 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Genuine question to you boys that actually fight/ box. It is in keeping with the thread (I hope). When a boxer trains for a fight, I would have thought he would train for the distance of the fight, and peak at the time of the fight? What happens if it is for an example a first round knock out? Where does his training go from there? As he has peaked for that particular fight, how long before he can start the cycle again? The same question for if the fight goes the distance? I understand that it would vary from fighter to fighter but is there a rule of thumb sort of thing where he has to wind down if you will, before he can start to train to reach a peak again? TC Tiercel most fighters like a minimum 10 week camp building up to a fight thats generally recognised as ideal preparation from normal healthy living weight.......when a fighter has a quick ko they will quite often spar 10 rounds a few days later as the peak is gone but their is still surplus energy to burn off.......after a mid - long distance fight most fighters will have a week off before getting back in the gym.......all fighters are different Joshua doesnt go much above his fighting weight month to month whereas a fighter like Fury i would think probably packs weight on between fights..... there is a lot of controversy between whether fighters get a higher peak bringing body weight down quickly or just maintaining and losing water weight a bit similar to conditioning your dog do you work him up to his highest peak or break him down to it all trainers have different opinions but again like your dog the personality and body type of your athlete has to be taken into account as everyone is different. All being equal Joshua could comfortably have a faster turn around between fights than a guy like Fury but ultimately the same goal is reached. Thank you, I knew someone who knew what they are talking about would be along at some point. Funnily enough it is recognised in falconry circles that a bird coming down to it's flying weight will be keener than a bird kept at it's flying weight, so that part made sense to me. TC If you watch his fights hes said in the past he warms down on the pads in the dressing room the remaining rounds after a 2-3 round KO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 fury n hearn at it on facebook, fury,aj stole my belt, hearn,come fight then n get it back.lol have to agree with the other post about inactivity 1 n 2 fights a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 I think they are doing well getting AJ a few steady defences. I know he's up there know he's got the belt but a few more steady ones won't do him any harm IMO and there are plenty of heavyweights out there willing to have a shot. Its like we said Gaz whats the more dangerous opponent a young fresh unbeaten untested fighter......or an old washed up decorated champion.......Hatton was the nations little darling when he beat a washed up legend who never fought again when in reality a young untested fighter of the time would probably have been the harder test its all about risk reward i admire the way Joshua is moving along quickly taking risks so early in his career with a " its just a fight " mentality.....its a refreshing change. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,013 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Cheers kanny thats the one I see what you mean ...you wouldent want one of them on yer chin ...I wouldent anyway deff , those combos were bloody powerful, he looks bigger i thought , Fury or AJ would be in trouble with him , with one of them shots deff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 Cheers kanny thats the oneI see what you mean ...you wouldent want one of them on yer chin ...I wouldent anyway deff , those combos were bloody powerful, he looks bigger i thought , Fury or AJ would be in trouble with him , with one of them shots deff He's defionatly bulked up however I find it hard to say so and so would have trouble with that shot without Seing the fighter take them it's easy to say things like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted April 25, 2016 Report Share Posted April 25, 2016 fury n hearn at it on facebook, fury,aj stole my belt, hearn,come fight then n get it back.lol have to agree with the other post about inactivity 1 n 2 fights a year. 13083324_1199154470096636_1239266943970406228_n.jpglol cheek of him to mention dick turpin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,938 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Share Posted April 26, 2016 fury n hearn at it on facebook, fury,aj stole my belt, hearn,come fight then n get it back.lol have to agree with the other post about inactivity 1 n 2 fights a year. 13083324_1199154470096636_1239266943970406228_n.jpglol notice he doesn't say he'll fight him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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