Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Well said Fuji sometimes there's no click at all seen it lots of times with greyhounds try different routine or let him have his head abit try turning everything into a game best of luck. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,863 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I never felt really felt a bond that strong with my dog until a couple of weeks ago when he decided he wasn't going to listen to a thing I said and kept running off he was about 11 months at the time, so I stuck him on the lead for a week and now I feel like we've finally bonded properly and there's no better feeling! thats just a pup fecking about with you, keeping him on a lead not bonding , but training him . . for me you only bond with a (working )dog when you respect it, meaning it does the work you want from it . if it does tick the boxes for you, you will try to make that connection to it, you be proud of it bonding as to come form both sides ive bonded with my younger dog Buck , it got stronger every year, but the feeling for Bryn not as strong , never as been . all dog s are differnt , some will give 100% work wise some will not 4 Quote Link to post
Declan. 318 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Totally agree with what you say bird, I did keep him on his lead for a week he's now off it and a completely different dog for it. He's no longer 4000 miles in front of me when on walks he stays in tight, his recall and all aspects of training seem to have improved so much better than before and as I said I feel like we've bonded because of it. ?? 1 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I think I all the years I kept lurchers there was only 2 I can honestly say I had a bond with. By bond I mean that the dog would understand every thing I wanted of them and could read me as I read them both dogs were working lurcher to working lurcher bred and a mish mash of most crosses 1 Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 i have a bond with my lurcher Ozzy. it only took a decade persiverance is the key 2 Quote Link to post
green dragon 701 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Is there a diffrance between haveing a bond and being a soppy b*****d? My staffy is a right c**t some days I want to kick him round the field but I wouldnt change a him for the world. but I think weve got a good bond but i do think my lurcher has a stronger feeling towards me he seems to just know what I'm thinking. he won't do f**k all for anyone eles but I'm just a soppy b*****d when it comes to my dogs 1 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 I think you may be right Dragon I think love for a dog can be confused with a bond so can a well trained dog be confused with a bond a bond to me is something that is as natural as the air we breathe and comes with no work it is just there every lurcher I've had would walk at heal and most could be lamped with out a lead but that is conditioning or training not a bond 2 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Having a bond with a dog is just the same as with another human. We are all unique, and dogs are the same. You get an incredible bond with one dog just because the two of you happen to be somehow able to 'click' together. This doesn't mean that a dog is any less of a good worker, obedient and happy if you don't have a special bond. It just means that there isn't that intense relationship which makes you and the dog feel as though you are sharing something special. I've had exceptional bonds with only a few dogs that I've owned, but I've had good relationships with many others who worked very well and did all that was asked of them. For example: my two Airedale lurchers. One I have a deep and meaningful bond with. She looks me in the eye with a meaning that is absent when her sister does the same. Both hunt well, both enjoy chasing a tennis ball when they're not working. Both retrieve well, are easy and fun to live with. I have found that the dogs I've had special bonds with haven't been particularly interested in forming bonds with other dogs, and they haven't been particularly sociable with other people either. It is as though all their attention, trust and feeling is reserved just for me. An extreme example of a bond could be illustrated by my old Deer/Grey, who refused to walk out to a hare sitting plain as day in a field of wheat when someone else, she knew well, tried to walk her out to it while I sat in the truck. She had seen the hare, but ran back to me and stood by the truck until I got out and walked out with her. She just wouldn't go anywhere with anyone else, no matter how well she knew and liked them. 5 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yeah exactly what I was getting at some people call them a dog in a life time . Some are lucky enough to have had or still have more than one Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Its pretty straightforward really,..same as with humans,..some folk ya like,..some you fecking don't.. Another thing that we sometimes forget, is that not all dogs,.like us or respect us,....we kinda take that fact, for granted.....Bit silly really... I try to get into the heart and soul of every dog ,....doing so can help to produce a good, sensible working partner,...in fact, you can become real close mates....A good worker can make or break the day ,.more so if you are toiling for the coin,...however,..it can be a mistake to get 'too close' to an active hunting dog,.... Their lives are fraught with constant danger,...death and disaster is waiting literally,.around every corner and over every hill,..so,.it can get, emotional.... Bonding is good, but it sure can hurt... Edited April 24, 2016 by Phil Lloyd 7 Quote Link to post
Declan. 318 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Is it right to say that a bond with a bond would/should be greater if that dog lives in the house rather than being kennelled? What are people's thoughts? Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 brother and sister beware before giving your heart to a dog to tear. 4 Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,133 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Is it right to say that a bond with a bond would/should be greater if that dog lives in the house rather than being kennelled? What are people's thoughts? ive got a 11 year old dog here and a 5 year old now the 11 year old as always lived in the house and the other outside i wouldnt say that the working bond between me and either dog is any different but i will say its a different sort of attachment with the old as hes always around. it dont matter where i go if i have a sandwhich somewhere i always leave a corner to throw to the dog which i always do at home if hes with me or not i always leave a bit. the dog in the kennel never comes into my thought s whilst eating. so in some ways the bond is different. 2 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Its strange that certain mutts,that we nurture,educate and enter,hold no hold on us throughout their hunting lives,we view them as part and parcel of our "tools of work",nothing more and nothing less.Then along comes the odd jukel that holds an influence on us that others never could,we nurture,educate and enter them along the same lines as any other,yet they pull at our emotions and stand above all others.It may be the little extra they try for you,the cheeky impudence that others don,t have,the hunting traits that come natural to them that others have to be trained to,or their reluctance to show their worth when other dogs or company is present.The few mutts that ive truly bonded with where often the most difficult to own until they matured. 6 Quote Link to post
bird 9,863 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Its strange that certain mutts,that we nurture,educate and enter,hold no hold on us throughout their hunting lives,we view them as part and parcel of our "tools of work",nothing more and nothing less.Then along comes the odd jukel that holds an influence on us that others never could,we nurture,educate and enter them along the same lines as any other,yet they pull at our emotions and stand above all others.It may be the little extra they try for you,the cheeky impudence that others don,t have,the hunting traits that come natural to them that others have to be trained to,or their reluctance to show their worth when other dogs or company is present.The few mutts that ive truly bonded with where often the most difficult to own until they matured. good thread mate , on good post i think its them type of dogs that give 100% on everything that they do, you respect them so a bond or call it what you like starts to develop for the dog. And what i like as well is a good friendly temp in working dog, like today Buck was playing with these young labs, he was very gentle with them,even though they were about 50lb, he was laying down let them jump all over him , and yet when he hunting he will tackle what ever in front of him , he seems to turn it off/ on dead easy that shows great temp in my book Quote Link to post
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