Advice

[Torquemada 288]

I thought I would give my probably unwanted opinion on this topic, as I have read quite a few people commenting on how no one is willing to give advice to others on a variety of subjects.

 

So, let me say that if this were strictly a DIY forum then I would give my advice, as when I am out seeing customers I always do help them this way. However, on a forum where a lot of people are charging or claiming they are charging members of the general public for the "expert" work, why should I?

 

There are many people on this forum who have spent years learning skills, whether it is trapping moles, catching foxes, squirrels, or rats etc... Sometimes they have learned this knowledge by trail and error, sometimes as an apprentice being paid low wages, sometimes they have paid for training and certification, and these hard working people are supposed to offer up this EARNED knowledge, free of charge on a public forum, to every numpty wannabe simply because they asked???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[3175darren 1,100]

If you ask a direct question normally some one will answer it, as regards hard working and charging people, the skills learned in the country side are skills, and if they make there living using them skills, then that's there business, because they didn't got to college and learn them, or get accreditation from some self professed professional, doesn't take away the hours of dedication in the field in all weathers, every body wants to be experts, but nobody wants the journey it takes to get there, why shouldn't people prize there particular skill sets,

 

Sorry edited while I had chance just re-read your post I must be thick but what's your point,

Edited April 20, 2016 by 3175darren

[EDDIE B 3,166]

Nothing stopping you keeping your knowledge, and opinions for that matter, to yourself. It ain't rocket science! If you don't post on here, then none of these DIY people, can rob your hard earned knowledge. Problem solved then.

 

Remember, this place is just a small part of "THE HUNTING LIFE" where most forums are dedicated to pastimes, we all share an interest in, and it's used to share knowledge, and experiences.

 

That's what this place is all about!

 

You also have to remember that "Professional Pest Controlling", is only a small part of this forum, it ain't the other way around, even if some people want to see it that way!

Edited April 20, 2016 by EDDIE B

[Tiercel 6,986]

As above no one is forcing you to divulge your trade secrets. Have nothing to say, then don't post, instead of making a song and dance about how your not going to give away your secrets. Simple really when you think about it.

 

TC

[Giro 2,648]

Regards to advice fella..

 

Some folks don't want spoon fed or their hand held but a few pointers can be helpful ie " certain dvds, books to buy or cheap traps to avoid..

 

In this section my knowledge & experience is limited but in other sections I'm happy to give geniuine people advice and thats what forums are about.

 

Sharing knowledge/skills and meaningful discussion not bickering and belittling other induviduals..

Edited April 20, 2016 by Giro

[Deker 3,478]

As it happens I am what is generally referred to as a Professional Pest Controller.

 

I know this will come as a surprise to some, but I don't know it all.

 

New traps, baits, legislation, etc., etc., turn up non stop, so do changes in technique, it is useful to check with others at times!

 

Just the same, there is a balance to be had giving advice to a numpty who may give a poor service, make a bad name for the profession, and take food out of my mouth.

 

ATB!

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

On the whole,...there are not many hidden 'secrets' left in the Pest Control business....

 

I've been in the game for a long old time,..seen many changes,.and adapted my script, to fall in line with the way of things...

There are many lads that I've taken out trapping, (moles, squirrels, rabbits, etc)...and also a fair few that have accompanied me, when I used to maintain regular Service Visits on Commercial Contracts to control, 'rats,mice and crawling insects' , , etc..

Personaly,..I feel proud to have helped out certain lads, who then,..by dint of their own drive, ambition and hard graft,..have gone on to achieve success in their field,..and now have good productive,..successful businesses to see them through life..

Truth is,..amongst all the devious tricks and treats that are regularly mentioned, in DVDs, Books, Forums,...there will always be, one or two personal 'tweaks' that folk keep to themselves...and it is these tiny, wee, twists and turns in life,.... that really keep,.. the wolf from the door

 

All the best ,..and be lucky,....regards, Phil.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Phil Lloyd

[earth-thrower 493]

As above no one is forcing you to divulge your trade secrets. Have nothing to say, then don't post, instead of making a song and dance about how your not going to give away your secrets. Simple really when you think about it.

 

TC

Well, i would have too 'differ' with you, on that one,...cause, you can still contribute, & give away just a 'little', (as well, as 'telling all', if you want) ?,...you see it, all the time ?,.., some folk, just offer some 'words of wisdom', & some will offer a 'hint' or two ?,.....& then you can just 'generalise',.....everyones entitled to 'participate', how they like, surely (well, within limits, i suppose)

[earth-thrower 493]

I thought I would give my probably unwanted opinion on this topic, as I have read quite a few people commenting on how no one is willing to give advice to others on a variety of subjects.

 

So, let me say that if this were strictly a DIY forum then I would give my advice, as when I am out seeing customers I always do help them this way. However, on a forum where a lot of people are charging or claiming they are charging members of the general public for the "expert" work, why should I?

 

There are many people on this forum who have spent years learning skills, whether it is trapping moles, catching foxes, squirrels, or rats etc... Sometimes they have learned this knowledge by trail and error, sometimes as an apprentice being paid low wages, sometimes they have paid for training and certification, and these hard working people are supposed to offer up this EARNED knowledge, free of charge on a public forum, to every numpty wannabe simply because they asked???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair point, you make,...

[earth-thrower 493]

If you ask a direct question normally some one will answer it, as regards hard working and charging people, the skills learned in the country side are skills, and if they make there living using them skills, then that's there business, because they didn't got to college and learn them, or get accreditation from some self professed professional, doesn't take away the hours of dedication in the field in all weathers, every body wants to be experts, but nobody wants the journey it takes to get there, why shouldn't people prize there particular skill sets,

 

Sorry edited while I had chance just re-read your post I must be thick but what's your point,

Well said,...

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

As above no one is forcing you to divulge your trade secrets. Have nothing to say, then don't post, instead of making a song and dance about how your not going to give away your secrets. Simple really when you think about it.

 

TC

Well, i would have too 'differ' with you, on that one,...cause, you can still contribute, & give away just a 'little', (as well, as 'telling all', if you want) ?,...you see it, all the time ?,.., some folk, just offer some 'words of wisdom', & some will offer a 'hint' or two ?,.....& then you can just 'generalise',.....everyones entitled to 'participate', how they like, surely (well, within limits, i suppose)

 

Post like you quote above are generally very welcome. It's the "I am not telling you anything" posts that are a complete and utter waste of time. The only reason they make a post like that is the compulsion to show that they know, but are not telling.

 

But as with all things internet, you can be who you want to be, do whatever comes into your mind and no one can disprove it.

 

TC

[Nicepix 5,650]

 

 

As above no one is forcing you to divulge your trade secrets. Have nothing to say, then don't post, instead of making a song and dance about how your not going to give away your secrets. Simple really when you think about it.

 

TC

Well, i would have too 'differ' with you, on that one,...cause, you can still contribute, & give away just a 'little', (as well, as 'telling all', if you want) ?,...you see it, all the time ?,.., some folk, just offer some 'words of wisdom', & some will offer a 'hint' or two ?,.....& then you can just 'generalise',.....everyones entitled to 'participate', how they like, surely (well, within limits, i suppose)

 

Post like you quote above are generally very welcome. It's the "I am not telling you anything" posts that are a complete and utter waste of time. The only reason they make a post like that is the compulsion to show that they know, but are not telling.

 

But as with all things internet, you can be who you want to be, do whatever comes into your mind and no one can disprove it.

 

TC

 

 

That's right. All that sort of post does is massage the ego of the poster. Nobody else benefits. At least if you give the information the recipient gains from it. Doesn't have to be on the open forum either. PMs are ideal for passing advice.

[earth-thrower 493]

 

 

 

As above no one is forcing you to divulge your trade secrets. Have nothing to say, then don't post, instead of making a song and dance about how your not going to give away your secrets. Simple really when you think about it.

 

TC

Well, i would have too 'differ' with you, on that one,...cause, you can still contribute, & give away just a 'little', (as well, as 'telling all', if you want) ?,...you see it, all the time ?,.., some folk, just offer some 'words of wisdom', & some will offer a 'hint' or two ?,.....& then you can just 'generalise',.....everyones entitled to 'participate', how they like, surely (well, within limits, i suppose)

 

Post like you quote above are generally very welcome. It's the "I am not telling you anything" posts that are a complete and utter waste of time. The only reason they make a post like that is the compulsion to show that they know, but are not telling.

 

But as with all things internet, you can be who you want to be, do whatever comes into your mind and no one can disprove it.

 

TC

 

 

That's right. All that sort of post does is massage the ego of the poster. Nobody else benefits. At least if you give the information the recipient gains from it. Doesn't have to be on the open forum either. PMs are ideal for passing advice.

 

Ok then, Nicepix,......can you give me an example ? (careful now ! ha ha)

Edited April 21, 2016 by earth-thrower

[stormyboy 1,352]

Example- someone asks advice, give some,either on the thread or by pm. Or don't! ?

[earth-thrower 493]

Example- someone asks advice, give some,either on the thread or by pm. Or don't!

Sorry, but youve misinterpreted, what i meant,.......

Edited April 22, 2016 by earth-thrower