hawki 1,431 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 im going for Ronnie and Judd Trump the two of them to be in the final what do you lads think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
taz2010 1,297 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 cant see anyone beating ronnie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I could be wrong as he changes from match to match but when ronnie came out for his first frame I said to myself, your heads not in it this year ronnie so for me judds got a fair chance, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,186 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 I was told by someone who knows his stuff several years ago that Judd Trump would win a world championship one day......so i,ll have a few quid on him as usual. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 Ronnie seems to be up to his old tricks, so perhaps his head isn't in the right place! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 O'sullivan is an absolute genius , his recovery shot while snookered was literally BRILLIANT , he came off 4 cushions to snooker his opponent , the man has to be our most talented sportsman for 50yrs as I can't think off anyone who's as talented in any sport !! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 O'sullivan is an absolute genius , his recovery shot while snookered was literally BRILLIANT , he came off 4 cushions to snooker his opponent , the man has to be our most talented sportsman for 50yrs as I can't think off anyone who's as talented in any sport !! you sound quite passionate towards the guy, which is fine, but.........i wouldn't say Ronnie is the most talented sportsman that we have had for the last fifty years, nor, as you say, you can't think of who's as talented in any other sport.....i don't think you can compare a snooker player to.....any other sport.....other than snooker, he probably is, one of the most talented snooker players that's been around, but, each sport has it's own different talent levels...so you can't weigh them up against each other really, i personally think it takes more talent to race a motorbike/car, rather than playing snooker.....but i couldn't say it is, as they are equally different talents, i don't think you can put one mans talent, in one sport, above another mans talent in another sport, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,186 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) O'sullivan is an absolute genius , his recovery shot while snookered was literally BRILLIANT , he came off 4 cushions to snooker his opponent , the man has to be our most talented sportsman for 50yrs as I can't think off anyone who's as talented in any sport !! you sound quite passionate towards the guy, which is fine, but.........i wouldn't say Ronnie is the most talented sportsman that we have had for the last fifty years, nor, as you say, you can't think of who's as talented in any other sport.....i don't think you can compare a snooker player to.....any other sport.....other than snooker, he probably is, one of the most talented snooker players that's been around, but, each sport has it's own different talent levels...so you can't weigh them up against each other really, i personally think it takes more talent to race a motorbike/car, rather than playing snooker.....but i couldn't say it is, as they are equally different talents, i don't think you can put one mans talent, in one sport, above another mans talent in another sport, Personally i think when it comes to pure natural talent......as in talent you was born with......Lanesra probably isnt far off.......whether you class Snooker as a sport or not for somebody to just pick up a snooker cue with hardly any practise and play at the very highest level right or left handed indicates a talent on almost ridiculous levels.......i remember listening to Phil Taylor say if he didnt practise for a week before a tournament he would get knocked out in the first round.....and that Ronnie is a freak of sport......very few people have dominated their sport like Taylor has so for him to say that about Ronnie holds a lot of weight with me. Edited April 19, 2016 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 O'sullivan is an absolute genius , his recovery shot while snookered was literally BRILLIANT , he came off 4 cushions to snooker his opponent , the man has to be our most talented sportsman for 50yrs as I can't think off anyone who's as talented in any sport !! you sound quite passionate towards the guy, which is fine, but.........i wouldn't say Ronnie is the most talented sportsman that we have had for the last fifty years, nor, as you say, you can't think of who's as talented in any other sport.....i don't think you can compare a snooker player to.....any other sport.....other than snooker, he probably is, one of the most talented snooker players that's been around, but, each sport has it's own different talent levels...so you can't weigh them up against each other really, i personally think it takes more talent to race a motorbike/car, rather than playing snooker.....but i couldn't say it is, as they are equally different talents, i don't think you can put one mans talent, in one sport, above another mans talent in another sport, Personally i think when it comes to pure natural talent......as in talent you was born with......Lanesra probably isnt far off.......whether you class Snooker as a sport or not for somebody to just pick up a snooker cue with hardly any practise and play at the very highest level right or left handed indicates a talent on almost ridiculous levels.......i remember listening to Phil Taylor say if he didnt practise for a week before a tournament he would get knocked out in the first round.....and that Ronnie is a freak of sport......very few people have dominated their sport like Taylor has so for him to say that about Ronnie holds a lot of weight with me. very true mate, pure natural talent is the highest level of winning, and ronnie is one of them, my reply was more, to the thought of...i can think of others, whereas lanesra couldn't think of anyone else, my instant thoughts of others were joey dunlop, carl fogarty, david beckham, joe calzaghe, steve hislop, as a few, who all have that pure natural talent and are consistent in what they love to do and make it all look easy, there is no doubt ronnie is up there, but i think the others i have mentioned are on a equal level pegging, as to how they have won so many times, you don't become a champion over and over again without having that natural gift, i totally get what you are saying, i think we are on the same page......in a way......its just that you put pen to paper better than me................lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I was told by someone who knows his stuff several years ago that Judd Trump would win a world championship one day......so i,ll have a few quid on him as usual. Empty your inbox Gnash ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,186 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 very true mate, pure natural talent is the highest level of winning, and ronnie is one of them, my reply was more, to the thought of...i can think of others, whereas lanesra couldn't think of anyone else, my instant thoughts of others were joey dunlop, carl fogarty, david beckham, joe calzaghe, steve hislop, as a few, who all have that pure natural talent and are consistent in what they love to do and make it all look easy, there is no doubt ronnie is up there, but i think the others i have mentioned are on a equal level pegging, as to how they have won so many times, you don't become a champion over and over again without having that natural gift, i totally get what you are saying, i think we are on the same page......in a way......its just that you put pen to paper better than me................lol No i get what your saying Tilly i agree......i just think theres something very pure and natural about the talent it must take to compete at the very highest level of sport with little or no practise leading up to it.......the examples you gave are all very talented in their own right,made great achievements and like you say consistently produced the goods.................but i bet they trained like f**k .......i admire hard work and dedication as much as the next man but natural talent i find so impressive dont you......im told Ronnie o Sullivan once made a 100 break with a broomstick handle 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,635 Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I am a massive Ronnie fan and agree with lanesra. We havent had someone as naturally talented at their chosen sport as him. He made his first century at something daft like 8 years old, first 147 at 14/15, pro at 16 and won a championship at 17 I think. Who has done anything similar to that? Id say closest would be Hamilton Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 I'd like to throw another sportsman into the mix, now he's still young and twice moto gp champion, mark Marquez is riding a bike this year with many problems and apart from him nobody else seems to be able to handle it but marks talent has let him win two races from 3 so far, now for me that's his talent above the others, what do you reckon??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 When Steve Davis announced his retirement, that Hazel bird asked one of her typically inane questions of John Parrott, "Why do you think Steve Davis was so dominant in world Snooker in the 80s?" Parrott's answer was "Because he was better than everyone else." Practising for 7 hours a day takes some dedication, but then how many of us would work a 49 hour week for the sort of money he used to earn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bracken boy 584 Posted April 20, 2016 Report Share Posted April 20, 2016 You can have massive talent but other factors need to happen and for me nerve and bottle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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