CHEVINFOX 3,537 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) is this a Goshawk Edited April 15, 2016 by CHEVINFOX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,599 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Sparrowhawk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Going by the white streaks above it's eye I would say a male Goshawk. That said it is very unusual to see them around buildings. TC Edited April 15, 2016 by tiercel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,599 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Going by the white streaks above it's eye I would say a male Goshawk. That said it is very unusual to see them around buildings. TC I thought it was a spar as the eyes looked lighter than a gos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Going by the white streaks above it's eye I would say a male Goshawk. That said it is very unusual to see them around buildings. TC I thought it was a spar as the eyes looked lighter than a gos. Perhaps some expert will be along shortly and tell us what it really is? TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
budharley 945 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Female spar 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 female spar would be my guess, there a lot more bold around people and civilization than a goss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 female spar would be my guess, there a lot more bold around people and civilization than a goss. Agreed spars are a lot bolder around civilization than a Gos Yet there is a pair in a valley not to far away from me that take chickens off the farm yard. They have even tried breaking in to arks with pullets in. But that is just that pair, as a rule as you say they avoid human contact as much as possible. What is making me to think Gos is the dark patch behind the eye and the light streak above it. You have flown spars and your not 100% so what chance do we have. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 As soon as I seen it I thought female Sparrowhawk but we don't have Goshawks. Very bold markings on the breast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil cooney 10,416 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Looking at it again I presume that's a fantail or white pigeon it has killed, so size wise I'd say Sparrowhawk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
budharley 945 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) female spar would be my guess, there a lot more bold around people and civilization than a goss. Agreed spars are a lot bolder around civilization than a Gos Yet there is a pair in a valley not to far away from me that take chickens off the farm yard. They have even tried breaking in to arks with pullets in. But that is just that pair, as a rule as you say they avoid human contact as much as possible. What is making me to think Gos is the dark patch behind the eye and the light streak above it. You have flown spars and your not 100% so what chance do we have. TC Female adult spars have the white streak also mate , ok not as defined and going around the back of the skull like a gosbut more or a light eyebrow Edited April 15, 2016 by budharley 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bell 3,600 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 I can see why you think Goss as it does look like one, however they are bloody big birds compared to doves/pigeons so it's got to be a Spa. Take away the dove and the surroundings and I bet 99% would say Goss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HPR 1,160 Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 Spar all day long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHEVINFOX 3,537 Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 thanks guys it was the farmer who said it was a gos .i did say it was a hen sparrowhawk he said you might be right but i think your wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plucky1 1,119 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 I used to fly female spars but without a better pic of the dove its hard to tell , it does look like a spar, here's a few pics of a male goshawk we use for pest control it may help, WM 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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