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I'm not saying their all like this but we once took a lad to the dales with his 2 race bred whippets, they were fast as feck , with in 20 mins we had to put them back in the car they were smashed to feck.

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Lol that's funny, to be fair one of his whippets is a nice stamp.   If I had one then I would want one like this...  

Non pedigree whippet types from when we were kids,rabbit,hare,rat,cat anything they came across they would have a go at.

Whippets are often underestimated as hunting dogs,... In fact,..they can often enhance the breeding programe of a purist rabbiteer   Some specimans have an inate desire to catch their quarry,..the

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The problem is with a lot of whippets now adays is there breed for money Unproven stock if you breed dirt with dirt you will get dirt you need to know who and were it's coming from proven stock good hard working whippets traced back to atleast the grand sire and dam the blood has been diluted nearly in every breed now days-this is the problem all whippets should be as game as hell no matter what arises hot cold snow or rain they should never lose there game I know my whippets work as hard at the end of the night same as we just started always watching and waiting for the next bunny maybe Its just me I put a lot of time walking and training and rearing in all my pups but you need to start from the right breeding no point in wasting a year or more hoping that it will work if you start from the right stock you should never have to worry whether your whippet will work or not it's in there blood if anything you will be holding them back keen to please

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I have owned 4 whippets mainly as house dogs but of course doing a bit as well. 3 from the 4 were from racing stock the other I bought from Ireland supposedly from well known hunting stock.

 

They were a mixed bag. One wouldn't even chase a rabbit but would chase a lure all day. One was good for rabbit and hare if not asked to give to much law. One was Ok for rabbits, but was cat mad, no cat beserk. The one I have now is the working stock from Ireland who is so wooden she couldn't catch a rabbit in a telephone box (stupid too).

 

I prefer the racing stock whippets in every department.

not asking you to name and shame but is the "working dog" from an Irish breeders own line?

 

 

No I think it was an English breed of working whippet a well known one. To be honest I just think I fell for the spiel. She has turned out oversized and wooden.

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I have owned 4 whippets mainly as house dogs but of course doing a bit as well. 3 from the 4 were from racing stock the other I bought from Ireland supposedly from well known hunting stock.

 

They were a mixed bag. One wouldn't even chase a rabbit but would chase a lure all day. One was good for rabbit and hare if not asked to give to much law. One was Ok for rabbits, but was cat mad, no cat beserk. The one I have now is the working stock from Ireland who is so wooden she couldn't catch a rabbit in a telephone box (stupid too).

 

I prefer the racing stock whippets in every department.

 

not asking you to name and shame but is the "working dog" from an Irish breeders own line?

No I think it was an English breed of working whippet a well known one. To be honest I just think I fell for the spiel. She has turned out oversized and wooden.

ah right, reason I ask is that I have seen an Irish bred line to throw some big lads
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From the point of view of somebody who doesn't own a lurcher and has only ever had one whippet cross (3/4 border 1/4 beardie x 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhound)...

 

I'd always been one of those people who firmly believed that a whippet cross was superior to a pure whippet. Surely it stood to reason...how could you do anything but improve the coat, nose, intelligence etc (and reap the benefit of the electric burst of speed) by adding pastoral or terrier blood.

 

But then my brother bought a whippet bitch...and another one...and another one. I don't think I've heard many people being so positive about their dogs, while still being honest about any shortcomings. As a result, as Katchum said above, when it comes for the time for my son to have his first dog, I'd certainly steer him in the direction of a pure whippet...maybe he'll let me mate it to Noggin!

 

Re the "whippet shivers:" I've always felt that this was nothing to do with feeling the elements but rather a manifestation of pent up energy. My kelpie bitch does exactly the same thing either when she's expecting action to start or when I stop to chat to somebody. People often say, "Ah, poor little thing, you should put a coat on it," but she does it just as much in the middle of a summer heatwave. Two other, non-dog, examples which immediately come to mind are snooker players tapping a finger on the table when cueing and toads twitching their middle toe of a back foot just before flicking out their tongue.

 

So, to sum up, I haven't got a whippet and I wouldn't be surprised if I never have one...but I'd still like to have one! I know that doesn't make sense!

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I have seen some very good working whippets bred from MB stuff(SS lines,Soul Boy,Strike while the Iron`s hot etc,etc).These produce dogs around 21" tts and 30+ lbs.The ones I`ve seen are really strong with a huge prey drive.I`ve not seen better as rabbit catchers.They are like heat seeking missiles on bunnies.

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I have seen some very good working whippets bred from MB stuff(SS lines,Soul Boy,Strike while the Iron`s hot etc,etc).These produce dogs around 21" tts and 30+ lbs.The ones I`ve seen are really strong with a huge prey drive.I`ve not seen better as rabbit catchers.They are like heat seeking missiles on bunnies.

There's been pure whippets as big as that, and bigger, long before MB started breeding his dogs, which incidentally are derived from a lot of laguna breeding. I owned a bich 30 years ago that was 21.5" tts, that was mainly nimrodel, cockrow and nevedith bred. And the sire and dam of my last whippet, different breeding, but with some same dogs in pedigree, 24 years ago were 22.5" and 21.5" respectively. Big whippets are not a recent or rare thing.

Not being funny, just highlighting that there's pretty much always been big, and small, purebred whippets about :thumbs:

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I have owned 4 whippets mainly as house dogs but of course doing a bit as well. 3 from the 4 were from racing stock the other I bought from Ireland supposedly from well known hunting stock.

 

They were a mixed bag. One wouldn't even chase a rabbit but would chase a lure all day. One was good for rabbit and hare if not asked to give to much law. One was Ok for rabbits, but was cat mad, no cat beserk. The one I have now is the working stock from Ireland who is so wooden she couldn't catch a rabbit in a telephone box (stupid too).

 

I prefer the racing stock whippets in every department.

not asking you to name and shame but is the "working dog" from an Irish breeders own line?

No I think it was an English breed of working whippet a well known one. To be honest I just think I fell for the spiel. She has turned out oversized and wooden.

ah right, reason I ask is that I have seen an Irish bred line to throw some big lads

 

 

The one I have from Ireland has turned out far bigger than I wanted. Bitch around 40lb. Think I may have been duped.

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I have seen some very good working whippets bred from MB stuff(SS lines,Soul Boy,Strike while the Iron`s hot etc,etc).These produce dogs around 21" tts and 30+ lbs.The ones I`ve seen are really strong with a huge prey drive.I`ve not seen better as rabbit catchers.They are like heat seeking missiles on bunnies.

 

I now have that blood in my own Collie based, hedgerow hunters,..and as you so rightly say,..this particular type of whippet does seem to produce eager hunters,.twined with a huge prey drive :yes:

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From the point of view of somebody who doesn't own a lurcher and has only ever had one whippet cross (3/4 border 1/4 beardie x 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhound)...

 

I'd always been one of those people who firmly believed that a whippet cross was superior to a pure whippet. Surely it stood to reason...how could you do anything but improve the coat, nose, intelligence etc (and reap the benefit of the electric burst of speed) by adding pastoral or terrier blood.

 

But then my brother bought a whippet bitch...and another one...and another one. I don't think I've heard many people being so positive about their dogs, while still being honest about any shortcomings. As a result, as Katchum said above, when it comes for the time for my son to have his first dog, I'd certainly steer him in the direction of a pure whippet...maybe he'll let me mate it to Noggin!

 

Re the "whippet shivers:" I've always felt that this was nothing to do with feeling the elements but rather a manifestation of pent up energy. My kelpie bitch does exactly the same thing either when she's expecting action to start or when I stop to chat to somebody. People often say, "Ah, poor little thing, you should put a coat on it," but she does it just as much in the middle of a summer heatwave. Two other, non-dog, examples which immediately come to mind are snooker players tapping a finger on the table when cueing and toads twitching their middle toe of a back foot just before flicking out their tongue.

 

So, to sum up, I haven't got a whippet and I wouldn't be surprised if I never have one...but I'd still like to have one! I know that doesn't make sense!

Your right what you say about the shivers

 

I see it more like a car having its engine turned on, it then has energy under the hood but before its engaged into drive and it's just idling , the vibration is noticeable in whippets because the body mass is less that most dogs , it's an energy issue not a temperature one .

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I think whippets do feel the cold if theyre standing about. Like Greyhounds they are cut down to run fast. Cut down to perform without waste that holds back speed.Thick coats and skins that keep other breeds windproof like a collie or a lakie would be baggage to a whippet or greyhound,like putting a saddlebag and mudguards on a road racing bike. There skin is thin because it doesnt serve any purpose to be thick like a hound or other breeds bred for hard conditions.

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Mates whippet was a real machine, took all game was amazing on deer pre ban every thing taken with real vigour. She was out every night and day at weekends think it's what you do with the dog. She used to have seizures when pushed to hard but a squirt of glucose and 5 minutes later she was ready to go she also made oldbones

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