Ive Never Seen Owt Like It.

[oohmydog 82]

You can just see the farmer when his sheep is running from this fellas dogs with a lamb hanging out its back end saying carry on lad your dogs are sound ?

[morton 5,368]

When sheep are about to lamb they run and move away from anything they think is a predator or harm ,it don't matter how well your dog is trained so to stop any mishaps stay away at this time of year

I walk,work and encounter Sheep on a daily basis,as do my mutts,the sheep and the mutts react accordingly and it bothers neither party.I totally agree that the vast majority of mutts should not be around fat Ewes ready to lamb,yet if they are not they can never be truly broken to stock.Its easy enough to break a mutt to sheep,its another lesson breaking them to lamb.

[morton 5,368]

Surely you are not hunting this time of year?? If you are excercising dogs just find a place where there is no sheep!! Common sense in my book, the farmers have got enough stress getting through lambing without someone running a dog through ewes and lambs.

I do a lot of mole control for local farmers,the majority own sheep,part and parcel of my mole control is that i exercise the mutts at the same time and the dogs often accompany me on my trapping forays,at times they run the odd bunny,the sheep,the lambs,the mutts and the farmer are educated to this.Ive yet to upset a farmer because of it,because my mutts are educated and so are the sheep,familiarity.Any farmer that does not want my mutts on the land pays a far higher dividend for his mole control,mates rates are part and parcel of my hunting life and the vast tracts of land that im allowed to hunt.

[morton 5,368]

You can just see the farmer when his sheep is running from this fellas dogs with a lamb hanging out its back end saying carry on lad your dogs are sound ?

Ive yet to meet that farmer,ive become mates with a few that have a better regard for hunting dogs because of what they have become accustomed to seeing with my jukels.I can walk land around me that farmers are reluctant to give me permission on,they stop and chew the cud when they see me,ask about the dogs etc.etc. and we part on honest terms,often until the next time they see me take a short cut over their land hauling a conie or 2.I cannot walk the local roads and lanes without a farmer passing with a toot or a wave.Thats what proper stock educated mutts get for some of us.

[terryd 8,385]

that's because your in the road they can't get by

But yes nothing wrong with being around the sheep with the farmers blessing as long as they are under strict control which means if they are a bit suspect on a lead if the sheep are in lamb or have lambs

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

Having read your past posts morton I can see that you are a responsible dog owner are as the majority on here. I am not saying the owner of the dog who had the run in with the sheep is irresponsible just could he have gone elsewhere?? You are in an enviable position with your job and dogs and it is good you have this arrangement with the landowners. Breaking to stock is paramount in the early stages of any dogs training but although the dog in question was in no doubt sound accidents do happen. Sheep being sheep I personally would steer clear whenever possible

[morton 5,368]

Having read your past posts morton I can see that you are a responsible dog owner are as the majority on here. I am not saying the owner of the dog who had the run in with the sheep is irresponsible just could he have gone elsewhere?? You are in an enviable position with your job and dogs and it is good you have this arrangement with the landowners. Breaking to stock is paramount in the early stages of any dogs training but although the dog in question was in no doubt sound accidents do happen. Sheep being sheep I personally would steer clear whenever possible

As would i,yet a mutt needs to encounter lamb before its ever stock trained.The nugget who started the post was on a wind up or the usual feckwit with an un-educated lurcher.I despise with a clear and lucid mind the feckwit minority that are unable or uncaring enough to give a mutt basic education,especially around stock,its not the dog that needs a bullet its the inbred parents that spawned the feckless feckers.

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

PMSL fair enough ATB

[pie 10]

for folks information I'm on good terms with the farmer,with well trained dogs which walk the ground on a regular basis,its great tae hear all the perfect people on here with their opinions,that I don't hesitate to say came from their own minds,and the open minded views from people that understand a well trained dog and no doubt have one,i have no worries and neither does the farmer,my dog kept its distance the critical views on here may need more experience of a well trained aware dog to understand the pleasure iof working with one that knows [BANNED TEXT] to mess with and [BANNED TEXT] not to,as I say I had never had this happen [BANNED TEXT],,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,easy up the few hypocrits on here,

[terryd 8,385]

for folks information I'm on good terms with the farmer,with well trained dogs which walk the ground on a regular basis,its great tae hear all the perfect people on here with their opinions,that I don't hesitate to say came from their own minds,and the open minded views from people that understand a well trained dog and no doubt have one,i have no worries and neither does the farmer,my dog kept its distance the critical views on here may need more experience of a well trained aware dog to understand the pleasure iof working with one that knows [bANNED TEXT] to mess with and [bANNED TEXT] not to,as I say I had never had this happen [bANNED TEXT],,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,easy up the few hypocrits on here,

 

 

lol no perfect nothing here pie I am the first to admit when i make a pigs ear of things which tends to be a weekly occurrence

In fact some honesty when it comes to folks and there dogs as far as training goes would be helpful and we could all learn from it

Edited April 11, 2016 by terryd