mC HULL 12,669 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 ali spinks first i can remember watching was vhs tape tyson v razor ruddock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,822 Posted September 10, 2023 Report Share Posted September 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, mC HULL said: ali spinks first i can remember watching was vhs tape tyson v razor ruddock I was 13 at the time, and my old man allowed me to watch it lol. Other than that, when he was home, the only thing that he'd have on the telly was football, horse racing, snooker and the news!! Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 15 hours ago, mC HULL said: if you watch without the rose tinted glasses on gnash it should a been 2-1 to norton not ali in there fights and not to forget frazier won the first both at the top of there game and was begging to keep going while ali was trying to jack but his corner wouldn’t let him fraziers corner stopped it Why would i have rose tinted glasses ?.....the 2 men who beat him he beat twice......it is what it is ! Your last sentence is so incredibly naive and silly it barely warrants a response........but Frazier was possibly the gamest man to ever lace a pair of gloves on......and Ali wasnt far behind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 15 hours ago, mC HULL said: that’s it but there’s been big heavyweights gnash fury moves well FOR HIS SIZE 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, mC HULL said: but fury wouldn’t he’s as mentally strong as ali and would tie him up lean on him throw him about when he couldn’t keep him at distance As long as theres no referee you mean ? You're entertaining i give you that.....unhealthily infatuated....but entertaining. Edited September 11, 2023 by gnasher16 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, jukel123 said: That's what pisses me off about Fury more than anything, his inactivity. Ali fought " a bum a month" and also participated with a money making cross over contest with that jap wrestler. Fury picks his meat and then gives out "I'll fight any man born of woman", I'm a fighting man" zzzzzzzzzz. I find it really funny listening to Fury he thinks he is so much more clever than he actually is.....you can read him like a book. Says to legitimate dangerous threats in the heavyweight division like Usyk/Joshua " im not fighting useless bums like you " But then says to no hopers who have never boxed before like Ngannu whatever his name is " you are very dangerous i'll have to be at my very best to beat you " The geezer couldnt con a 5 year old Edited September 11, 2023 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,669 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: I find it really funny listening to Fury he thinks he is so much more clever than he actually is.....you can read him like a book. Says to legitimate dangerous threats in the heavyweight division like Usyk/Joshua " im not fighting useless bums like you " But then says to no hopers who have never boxed before like Ngannu whatever his name is " you are very dangerous i'll have to be at my very best to beat you " The geezer couldnt con a 5 year old i see joshua has stopped talks with wilder gnash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,148 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Why would i have rose tinted glasses ?.....the 2 men who beat him he beat twice......it is what it is ! Your last sentence is so incredibly naive and silly it barely warrants a response........but Frazier was possibly the gamest man to ever lace a pair of gloves on......and Ali wasnt far behind. Frazier should have " gamest man to ever lace a pair of gloves on" engraved on his tombstone. Respect. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: i see joshua has stopped talks with wilder gnash No idea i dont pay much attention to all the nonsense,the division is finished as far as im concerned i cant wait till the current crop just f**k off out the way. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, jukel123 said: Frazier should have " gamest man to ever lace a pair of gloves on" engraved on his tombstone. Respect. My ol fella used to say watching a few of Fraziers fights would bring a tear to his eye......hard to disagree really. Edited September 11, 2023 by gnasher16 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,148 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 28 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: My ol fella used to say watching a few of Fraziers fights would bring a tear to his eye......hard to disagree really. I know exactly how he felt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: I know exactly how he felt. Just killing a bit of time on these long hot days....what did you make of the Foreman v Frazier fights mate just out of interest ?.....2 very strange fights for me that ive never quite been able to put my finger on as regards how they played out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,669 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 2 hours ago, gnasher16 said: No idea i dont pay much attention to all the nonsense,the division is finished as far as im concerned i cant wait till the current crop just f**k off out the way. hasn’t it always been like this regarding big fights ? tyson holyfield bowe lewis tyson lewis vitali lewis takes 2 to sign fury is wbc champion and the money fight funny how wilder and fury are the best 2 in the division usyk joshua ain’t been near em have they talk loads about it a fat unfit laid off fury jumped at the chance to go to america and box for the wbc didn’t he ? short memory on some aye shaark you welsh lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,245 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, gnasher16 said: My ol fella used to say watching a few of Fraziers fights would bring a tear to his eye......hard to disagree really. On more than one occasion, when I've been trying to explain "gameness" to friends who aren't familiar with the term, I will always point them in the direction of the "thriller in Manila" the conditions they fought in, temp/humidity etc, and the non stop action over 14 rounds, both men pushed themselves above and beyond. I believe Ali said that's the closest he came to dying, futch thought Joe was at genuine risk of doing just that! I've watched that fight so many times, and If Ali was the greatest, well, ol' Joe was most definitely the gamest.... Yokel Edited September 12, 2023 by YOKEL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,148 Posted September 11, 2023 Report Share Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Just killing a bit of time on these long hot days....what did you make of the Foreman v Frazier fights mate just out of interest ?.....2 very strange fights for me that ive never quite been able to put my finger on as regards how they played out. I remember being amazed and saddened watching the first fight. I think Joe was caught early on on the temple. He didn't go down but I think his head was scrambled from then on. Foreman found his range so easily. Frazier didn't seem to know how to get inside and seemed to stand off him and allow Foreman dozens of free, really punishing punches. In the second fight I think Frazier tried to learn from Ali , he backed off and stayed on the ropes a lot. He seemed to abandon his major strength...relentlessly coming forward. It didn't work, Foreman found his range again and bludgeoned Joe. I think some boxers are only at their best for a short time. Three or fights maybe. Joe must have taken hundreds of heavy shots not just in fights but in sparring. He wasn't the same man who fought Ali in their first fight, that's for sure. I was a big follower of John Conteh. When he met Saad Mohammad he just seem to roll over and offered no resistance. He said himself his punch resistance had gone. He put it down to whoring and coke. I guess, as I say, some fighters shine brightly but not for long. What's your take on the Frazier Foreman fights mate? Edited September 11, 2023 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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