Boxing At The Weekend...

[mC HULL 12,162]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

Cheers.

like this chart ? 

 

[shaaark 10,693]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

he hits so hard journey go the distance that doesn’t make much sense shaark does it

Ok, Gooey, you're right, shavers didn't have a hard punch. 

[mC HULL 12,162]

Just now, shaaark said:

Ok, Gooey, you're right, shavers didn't have a hard punch. 

he hit hard shaark but wilder hits harder

[shaaark 10,693]

1 hour ago, NEWKID said:

OK, from what I've seen he has changed his style in the last 2 Wilder fights to be more aggressive and throw his weight, before that he was flicking out punches and moving in circles, backwards mainly around the ring... I don't see great footwork in that personally... credit where its due he changed his style and got on top/bullied Wilder and was a convincing winner...he was on the front foot more than I've seen in the past... a good adaption to his style to beat an absolutely awful boxer who only weapon is a huge looping right hand (which put fury down more times than he would've liked)...

So we can only base this aggressive style on 2 fights against wilder (who's shit)... could he have done that to Ali, Bowe, Lewis, a prime Tyson... or would he have been on his back foot flicking out punches with no meaning as he did for the majority of the fights before? We'll never know... but we can only base Fury on 3 fights really, the last 2 against Wilder and the worst fight in history against Klitcho... how can that rank him against the past eras where we have 70 or fights in good competitive match ups?

By the way, I think Fury turning it around, his life, mental state and being rhe biggest draw in boxing is incredible...fair play to the man, I just dont see him as a great personally

Fair enough...

[shaaark 10,693]

2 hours ago, mC HULL said:

he hit hard shaark but wilder hits harder

And exactly how do you ascertain that?

Shavers fought, and beat, some great fighters of that era, all of whom said he was definitely the hardest puncher they'd fought.

Wilder has fought NONE. 19 of his 39 opponents, before fury, weren't even ranked, with ANY organisation.  And a lot of the ones that were ranked, weren't even in the top 30 with any organisation.

Delve a little deeper, instead of just looking for W, TKO, KO, Gooey. 

Like I've told you, you'll start realising what's what, and who's who. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by shaaark

[shaaark 10,693]

2 hours ago, NEWKID said:

OK, from what I've seen he has changed his style in the last 2 Wilder fights to be more aggressive and throw his weight, before that he was flicking out punches and moving in circles, backwards mainly around the ring... I don't see great footwork in that personally... credit where its due he changed his style and got on top/bullied Wilder and was a convincing winner...he was on the front foot more than I've seen in the past... a good adaption to his style to beat an absolutely awful boxer who only weapon is a huge looping right hand (which put fury down more times than he would've liked)...

So we can only base this aggressive style on 2 fights against wilder (who's shit)... could he have done that to Ali, Bowe, Lewis, a prime Tyson... or would he have been on his back foot flicking out punches with no meaning as he did for the majority of the fights before? We'll never know... but we can only base Fury on 3 fights really, the last 2 against Wilder and the worst fight in history against Klitcho... how can that rank him against the past eras where we have 70 or fights in good competitive match ups?

By the way, I think Fury turning it around, his life, mental state and being rhe biggest draw in boxing is incredible...fair play to the man, I just dont see him as a great personally

Fair enough...

[NEWKID 27,047]

3 hours ago, mC HULL said:

his greatest asset is his mentality not his size 

he also put in a quality performance v chisora when he made him quit vitali klitschko couldn’t do it 

i agree with max he would be a handful for any heavyweight ever 

So we have a great performance against Chisora (FFS!!), 3 fights with Wilder and the most boring fight ever against Klitcho... anymore to add to the greatest evers resume?

[mC HULL 12,162]

12 minutes ago, NEWKID said:

So we have a great performance against Chisora (FFS!!), 3 fights with Wilder and the most boring fight ever against Klitcho... anymore to add to the greatest evers resume?

look what usyk could do with an old chisora f**k all  

beat the longest reigning champion in history in klitschko 

[NEWKID 27,047]

6 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

look what usyk could do with an old chisora f**k all  

beat the longest reigning champion in history in klitschko 

Usyk beat Chisora as did Whyte (twice), Haye, Klitcho and a fair few others... so are you really pulling Chisora into this as a worthy argument to bolster his resume in the greatest ever claims??

Or are we going to stay in the real world and say he beat Klitcho (shit fight) and Wilder 3 times (shit boxer) and that is about it on his record worthy of talking about?

 

 

[mC HULL 12,162]

2 hours ago, NEWKID said:

Usyk beat Chisora as did Whyte (twice), Haye, Klitcho and a fair few others... so are you really pulling Chisora into this as a worthy argument to bolster his resume in the greatest ever claims??

Or are we going to stay in the real world and say he beat Klitcho (shit fight) and Wilder 3 times (shit boxer) and that is about it on his record worthy of talking about?

 

 

he made chisora quit no one has done that 

haye knocked him out in fashion and a much better version to the one usyk couldn’t do much with

im not saying he is the best ever that’s personal choice although if say he is in with a shout  and on his day i yhink he would beat every heavyweight from any era 

[mC HULL 12,162]

4 hours ago, shaaark said:

And exactly how do you ascertain that?

Shavers fought, and beat, some great fighters of that era, all of whom said he was definitely the hardest puncher they'd fought.

Wilder has fought NONE. 19 of his 39 opponents, before fury, weren't even ranked, with ANY organisation.  And a lot of the ones that were ranked, weren't even in the top 30 with any organisation.

Delve a little deeper, instead of just looking for W, TKO, KO, Gooey. 

Like I've told you, you'll start realising what's what, and who's who. 

who was shavers best win ? norton at the end of his career ? 

[shaaark 10,693]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

who was shavers best win ? norton at the end of his career ? 

Gypsy Queen, or wilderette, which are you, Gooey? 

[shaaark 10,693]

8 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

 

im not saying he is the best ever

You sure about that, because every time fury is mentioned you come out with all sorts of hyperbolic RUBBISH about him, and you seem as though you're mesmerised by him, almost as if you're in a trance just by talking about him.

Hence why I renamed you GOOEY, because it's like that's how you feel just by reading his name lol.

Quite cute really lol

[mC HULL 12,162]

57 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Gypsy Queen, or wilderette, which are you, Gooey? 

swerve again  

[NEWKID 27,047]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

he made chisora quit no one has done that 

haye knocked him out in fashion and a much better version to the one usyk couldn’t do much with

im not saying he is the best ever that’s personal choice although if say he is in with a shout  and on his day i yhink he would beat every heavyweight from any era 

Fair enough mate, its all opinions at the end of the day..

I think we can all judge better when the current crop are finished, they need to get the fights done and stop f***ing about...