mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Any could beat any mate, Cooper could've beat Ali (clay at the time), Rahman beat Lewis... are they considered greats? Fury can only beat whats infront of him, I personally think Wilder is a terrible boxer, he has that 1 big looping right hand and fair play knocked a load of people out with it... Fury beat him and on paper thats his best wins... he was in all sorts of trouble in all 3 fights came through it and won.... I just don't think there is the boxers around for the last 10 years or so at HW to test a man who is so big and grapples constantly.. how he would fair in other eras is up for debate, perhaps his size would still be the deciding factor? But I just can't see this brilliant boxer, ring IQ, footwork etc personally... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 One of my favs from recent times, the sheriff of notts, get on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 Just now, New moon said: One of my favs from recent times, the sheriff of notts, get on. quality i thought the froch johnson was class determination 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,694 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Any could beat any mate, Cooper could've beat Ali (clay at the time), Rahman beat Lewis... are they considered greats? Fury can only beat whats infront of him, I personally think Wilder is a terrible boxer, he has that 1 big looping right hand and fair play knocked a load of people out with it... Fury beat him and on paper thats his best wins... he was in all sorts of trouble in all 3 fights came through it and won.... I just don't think there is the boxers around for the last 10 years or so at HW to test a man who is so big and grapples constantly.. how he would fair in other eras is up for debate, perhaps his size would still be the deciding factor? But I just can't see this brilliant boxer, ring IQ, footwork etc personally... Exactly, nk, he is an average fighter, who, because of his height and long arms, ie grappling everyone he fights, is beating other average fighters in the worst heavyweight era we've EVER seen. Magoo, and whoever else, if you really think fury is an ATG, or the best heavyweight in years, you REALLY need to take off those fanboy glasses, FFS!! Edited May 7, 2022 by shaaark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 Just now, shaaark said: Exactly, nk, he is an average fighter, who, because of his height and long arms, ie grappling everyone he fights, is beating other average fighters in the worst heavyweight era we've EVER seen. but he has great self belief and great recovery powers mate i think he beats a lot a the greats and he is still improving he beat klitschko as a novice really a ten year champion nearly 20 defences Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,694 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: but he has great self belief and great recovery powers mate i think he beats a lot a the greats and he is still improving he beat klitschko as a novice really a ten year champion nearly 20 defences FAAACK OFF, YOU SILLY c**t!! I can't put it any clearer than that. Gnasher was dead right the other day, you are CLEARLY f****n CLUELESS!! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, shaaark said: FAAACK OFF, YOU SILLY c**t!! I can't put it any clearer than that. Gnasher was dead right the other day, you are CLEARLY f****n CLUELESS!! you talk shit shaark i’m afraid joshua will beat fury a whippet kills hares 2 of the daft things i’ve heard you say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,694 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: you talk shit shaark i’m afraid joshua will beat fury a whippet kills hares 2 of the daft things i’ve heard you say Yeah, ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,694 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) @ Magoo, so you've NEVER seen a pure bred whippet kill a hare? We're not talking 500 yard slips on the slop!! And why, OH WHY, has fury now retired BEFORE he has to face joshua or usyk?!! You silly silly BOY!! Edited May 8, 2022 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,048 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 I would've had a pre Ruiz Joshua beating Fury to be honest, I think when he was letting his hands go he was the best finisher in the division (not biggest puncher, best finisher)... Fury at that time did not throw his weight, Joshua would've landed and we know Fury can be hurt, he's recovered well against Wilder but I thought a finisher like Joshua would cause him trouble... Its swung a bit now, Joshua trying to box and Fury now punching his weight... its the fight we all want to see, regardless if they aren't the best ever etc...it has an interest around it...unfortunately I think Usyk is too good and AJ will struggle again, I hope AJ wins and they get the fight on... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 minute ago, NEWKID said: I would've had a pre Ruiz Joshua beating Fury to be honest, I think when he was letting his hands go he was the best finisher in the division (not biggest puncher, best finisher)... Fury at that time did not throw his weight, Joshua would've landed and we know Fury can be hurt, he's recovered well against Wilder but I thought a finisher like Joshua would cause him trouble... Its swung a bit now, Joshua trying to box and Fury now punching his weight... its the fight we all want to see, regardless if they aren't the best ever etc...it has an interest around it...unfortunately I think Usyk is too good and AJ will struggle again, I hope AJ wins and they get the fight on... i think joshua will beat usyk in the rematch if he goes at him fights dirty lays on him he will get the win boxing him usyk throwing fast arm punches he will win again joshua. ginny but i don’t think usyk has the power to stop him he couldn’t stop cruiserweights 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, McVey said: A lot of what if's again, he does that he leaves himself wide open and will walk on to a shot, legs will stiffen up and it's game over. he gets knocked out by a feather duster like usyk he wants to wrap it in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, mC HULL said: i think joshua will beat usyk in the rematch if he goes at him fights dirty lays on him he will get the win boxing him usyk throwing fast arm punches he will win again joshua. ginny but i don’t think usyk has the power to stop him he couldn’t stop cruiserweights I dont, I'll give aj a punchers chance, to chinny and stamina issues, usyks corner was telling him not to go for the stoppage. Fury v usyk, wilder v aj thats what I'd like to see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, McVey said: Yep, I dread to think what a dynamite puncher like Cunningham would do to him, probably end up with his first body. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,189 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 1 minute ago, New moon said: I dont, I'll give aj a punchers chance, to chinny and stamina issues, usyks corner was telling him not to go for the stoppage. Fury v usyk, wilder v aj thats what I'd like to see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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