gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) On 26/03/2022 at 22:05, New moon said: At 6'9 and best part of 20 stone i should think he can be hit, i would like to see how he copes with usyk, not as easy as many think imo. For me Fury v Usyk will be the fight we see just how average a boxer Fury is....yes he will cause Usyk problems as fighting any man far larger than yourself does....but if we're talking true talent and ability Usyk does what Fury does only 100 times better his footwork will have Fury falling over himself and the fact Furys power isnt a real threat will give Usyk the confidence to trade up and move,trade up and move,trade up and move i see it as a one sided fight in all honesty. Edited April 4, 2022 by gnasher16 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 40 minutes ago, mC HULL said: fury 6-9 joshua is 6’6 three inch in it height wise haye and joshua are bulky full a roids no roods cardio would thin em out Ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, mC HULL said: a 140 lb mastiff has serious crunching strengths a apbt is a better killer of dogs threw gamesness and size a smaller dog gets underneath which is hard work for the bigger dog " a better killer of dogs through gameness and size " Like a cur dog has never killed an opponent !!! " a smaller dog gets underneath which is hard work for the bigger dog " Yeah big dogs dont like to be on top do they !!! You're entertaining i'll give you that Edited April 4, 2022 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: For me Fury v Usyk will be the fight we see just how average a boxer Fury is....yes he will cause Usyk problems as fighting any man far larger than yourself does....but if we're talking true talent and ability Usyk does what Fury does only 100 times better his footwork will have Fury falling over himself and the fact Furys power isnt a real threat will give Usyk the confidence to trade up and move,trade up and move,trade up and move i see it as a one sided fight in all honesty. Usyk didn't fear joshua and he wont fear fury, if fury continues to fight at 19/20 stone i dont see him beating usyk, he would have to fight like he did against klitscko to be in with a chance imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: I disagree Joshua is not " massive "....he's a tall athletic guy yes but he simply doesnt have the skeletal structure and frame type that " massive " people have.....David Haye was the same....3 months of sedentary living on " normal " diet and exercise would see these types of sportsmen shrink down to nothing....its merely sport/gym that holds their size. Im talking about joshua the boxer, the man in condition, and that is a big powerful man, less so out of condition i understand, fury is the opposite, probably walk around at 22/23 stone without training, and a lot more with neglect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 04/04/2022 at 13:07, New moon said: Im talking about joshua the boxer, the man in condition, and that is a big powerful man, less so out of condition i understand, fury is the opposite, probably walk around at 22/23 stone without training, and a lot more with neglect. Im talking about by nature though mate....regardless how a man looks on the night he is what he is....and Joshua is nowhere near as big as Fury. I see it similar to how Bellew knew that by nature he was a bigger man than Haye....and fought him in a way of knowing that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Im talking about by nature though mate....regardless how a man looks on the night he is what he is....and Joshua is nowhere near as big as Fury. I see it similar to how Bellew knew that by nature he was a bigger man than Haye....and fought him in a way of knowing that. I'll be honest this would put a glass eye to sleep, joshua is 6ft 6 inch tall, feet like boats, hands like dinner plates, to me he is a big man, not as big as fury i know this, more athletic and leaner body type. The difference between haye and bellew is simple, 1 was more shot than the other Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, New moon said: I'll be honest this would put a glass eye to sleep, joshua is 6ft 6 inch tall, feet like boats, hands like dinner plates, to me he is a big man, not as big as fury i know this, more athletic and leaner body type. The difference between haye and bellew is simple, 1 was more shot than the other Haye like Joshua with 3 months of sedentary living will lose weight whereas most fighters put weight on.....Yes Joshua has hands like dinner plates but he has wrists like a small child....Haye the same......a mans frame and body type is who and what he is not even the gym can hide that.....Bellew didnt beat Haye because Haye was finished he beat him because he was the bigger man and he knew it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: Haye like Joshua with 3 months of sedentary living will lose weight whereas most fighters put weight on.....Yes Joshua has hands like dinner plates but he has wrists like a small child....Haye the same......a mans frame and body type is who and what he is not even the gym can hide that.....Bellew didnt beat Haye because Haye was finished he beat him because he was the bigger man and he knew it. Joshua is very well put together, flesh and bone, i do realise he could lose some vigour by stopping his training regime. I also know fury is bigger, but joshua is still a big man with or without the gym, as for bellew being bigger than haye and beating him because of that your having a laugh. Edited April 6, 2022 by New moon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,195 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 04/04/2022 at 12:17, gnasher16 said: For me Fury v Usyk will be the fight we see just how average a boxer Fury is....yes he will cause Usyk problems as fighting any man far larger than yourself does....but if we're talking true talent and ability Usyk does what Fury does only 100 times better his footwork will have Fury falling over himself and the fact Furys power isnt a real threat will give Usyk the confidence to trade up and move,trade up and move,trade up and move i see it as a one sided fight in all honesty. is this the same usyk that was getting outboxed by bellew? struggled with chisora and really throws nothing but arm punches ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,195 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 04/04/2022 at 12:51, gnasher16 said: " a better killer of dogs through gameness and size " Like a cur dog has never killed an opponent !!! " a smaller dog gets underneath which is hard work for the bigger dog " Yeah big dogs dont like to be on top do they !!! You're entertaining i'll give you that anyone seen dogs fight from playing to going at it knows the that the smaller dog gets underneath the reason most dogs struggle with any type a bull terrier even jack russell pts lakeys etc cause bigger dogs trouble all the bigger dogs can do is lay on em if they get under and grab on 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,195 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, gnasher16 said: Haye like Joshua with 3 months of sedentary living will lose weight whereas most fighters put weight on.....Yes Joshua has hands like dinner plates but he has wrists like a small child....Haye the same......a mans frame and body type is who and what he is not even the gym can hide that.....Bellew didnt beat Haye because Haye was finished he beat him because he was the bigger man and he knew it. haye would a blitzed bellew 7 year ago he was finished well and truly by the time they fought 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, mC HULL said: haye would a blitzed bellew 7 year ago he was finished well and truly by the time they fought That bellew was a tricky character but nothing special, haye to good for him in his prime, despite being smaller and weaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
New moon 250 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, mC HULL said: is this the same usyk that was getting outboxed by bellew? struggled with chisora and really throws nothing but arm punches ? to be honest mate i think bellew was easy meat for usyk, chisora gave him the rounds. usyk elite level boxer imo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,195 Posted April 6, 2022 Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 hours ago, New moon said: to be honest mate i think bellew was easy meat for usyk, chisora gave him the rounds. usyk elite level boxer imo he’s class mate but bellew or huck is about the best he has stopped breidis glowaki gassiev chisora even hunter all on points he has good feet head movement but throws mostly arm punches doesn’t he i think he will struggle to get near fury Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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