Greyman 27,978 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 21 hours ago, Francie, said: I think fury will stop usyk in this one in dec Mike Tyson looks terrifying in his work out videos mate but he ainât going to regain his world title either he ainât got the engine nor the punch resistance he did which were his best attributes for someone so big Father Time waits for no man 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 18 hours ago, Borr said:  went for the body and didn't clown about I'd say he's got a good chance of beating usyk I really don't go along with all this 'usyk is weak/vulnerable to the body' malarkey. Amateur and pro, he's had 377 fights, and been bothered by body shots, the dubois one being deemed a low blow, 2-3 times!! Not exactly overwhelming proof that he's weak to the body. Never been down from a head shot, which everyone knows fury certainly can be knocked over by. Fury's had 69 fights, total. Be interesting to know how many times he's been knocked down, especially from body shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 5,726 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 Just now, shaaark said: I really don't go along with all this 'usyk is weak/vulnerable to the body' malarkey. Amateur and pro, he's had 377 fights, and been bothered by body shots, the dubois one being deemed a low blow, 2-3 times!! Not exactly overwhelming proof that he's weak to the body. Never been down from a head shot, which everyone knows fury certainly can be knocked over by. Fury's had 69 fights, total. Be interesting to know how many times he's been knocked down, especially from body shots. No I meant fury landed some good shots to the body , nothing more than that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Borr said: No I meant fury landed some good shots to the body , nothing more than that. Wasn't having a dig at you, mate. Just thinking out loud really, about all that 'usyk is weak to the body' nonsense. Edited June 14 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,113 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, shaaark said: I really don't go along with all this 'usyk is weak/vulnerable to the body' malarkey. Amateur and pro, he's had 377 fights, and been bothered by body shots, the dubois one being deemed a low blow, 2-3 times!! Not exactly overwhelming proof that he's weak to the body. Never been down from a head shot, which everyone knows fury certainly can be knocked over by. Fury's had 69 fights, total. Be interesting to know how many times he's been knocked down, especially from body shots. dubois wasnât low mate heâs been hurt dropped half a dozen times to the body but a good body shot will drop anyone fury dazed him a few times to the head he got on his bike he knew heâs a good chin like you say he ainât been over yet from a head shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 33 minutes ago, mC HULL said: dubois wasnât low mate heâs been hurt dropped half a dozen times to the body It was a low blow. He was dropped twice by beterbiev, as amateurs, and the low blow by dubois, that's three times. And being hurt to the body, which most boxers will be, regularly, isn't the same as being dropped by a body shot. 33 minutes ago, mC HULL said: but a good body shot will drop anyone Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,113 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 18 minutes ago, shaaark said: It was a low blow. He was dropped twice by beterbiev, as amateurs, and the low blow by dubois, that's three times. And being hurt to the body, which most boxers will be, regularly, isn't the same as being dropped by a body shot. Correct. low lol come on shaark on the belt isnât low especially when itâs that high  a few are good shots to the  solarplexus but a few are just around the midriff and there hurting him  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,858 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: low lol come on shaark on the belt isnât low especially when itâs that high  a few are good shots to the  solarplexus but a few are just around the midriff and there hurting him  Yeh, they hurt him, and fury keep goings for them to stop fair enough. But one massive prob for fury, if he carnt stop by 6 rounds with body shots, upper cuts if you like, thats what suger tell him to do, no show boating, just take him out early rounds. Now your little rabbit at 6ft 3in  near 16st, will know all this, so will his coach/team. Yusk will be all over fury like fookin rust, and know he knows drop him, he 100% go for a knock out, and this time ropes won't save him., I could be wrong as what goes on on the day, the fight won't go 12 rounds, yusk will stop him prob 9bor 10 the longer it goes fury in the shit deff,. put your money yusk for ko mate, get brand new car from it deff, I might go down bookmakers for ÂŁ150 quid, worth a punt mate. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie, 2,137 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 5 hours ago, Greyman said: Mike Tyson looks terrifying in his work out videos mate but he ainât going to regain his world title either he ainât got the engine nor the punch resistance he did which were his best attributes for someone so big Father Time waits for no man I wasnt going by the vid mate,I was going by his performance against usyk,he was winning an hurting usyk until the 7th,then slowed down for whatever reason,you could see usyk feeling the body shots,so I think with this L hes got he should throw the kitchen sink at him an stop him I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,978 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Francie, said: I wasnt going by the vid mate,I was going by his performance against usyk,he was winning an hurting usyk until the 7th,then slowed down for whatever reason,you could see usyk feeling the body shots,so I think with this L hes got he should throw the kitchen sink at him an stop him I think. Even if he does mate there will be a trilogy and I would think the laws of probability would favour usyk in a three fight series, wilder put him on his arse how many times in there trilogy and heâs not any bigger than usyk be better all round if usyk wins and they both retire obviously jmho  2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Francie, said: I wasnt going by the vid mate,I was going by his performance against usyk,he was winning an hurting usyk until the 7th,   are you serious Francie?! Usyk won the first three rounds, fury did better in 4, 5 and 6, then usyk started to pull away again, and battered him from pillar to post in the 9th!! 1 hour ago, Francie, said: then slowed down for whatever reason He slowed down because of the constant pressure usyk put him under, that fury couldn't deal with, and the fact the ref should've stopped the fight in the 9th!!  2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 6 hours ago, mC HULL said: low lol come on shaark on the belt isnât low especially when itâs that high  a few are good shots to the  solarplexus but a few are just around the midriff and there hurting him  Lol, have a look how high tyson fraudy's belt line was in the fight with usyk!! c**t's got an absolute cheek to even mention waistbands or low blows in the dubois fight!! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,693 Posted June 14 Report Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Greyman said: Even if he does mate there will be a trilogy and I would think the laws of probability would favour usyk in a three fight series, wilder put him on his arse how many times in there trilogy and heâs not any bigger than usyk be better all round if usyk wins and they both retire obviously jmho  I'd say usyk would beat him 3 out of 3 G. And if this rematch does go ahead, I'll go with usyk for the win again, then I'd love to see him retire for good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 27,978 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 16 hours ago, Francie, said: I wasnt going by the vid mate,I was going by his performance against usyk,he was winning an hurting usyk until the 7th,then slowed down for whatever reason,you could see usyk feeling the body shots,so I think with this L hes got he should throw the kitchen sink at him an stop him I think. Mate I have put the punch count video up 3 times fury had a few good rounds mid fight but lost most of the rest final clean punchâs landed was 65 by fury to 100 by Usyk that would equate mathematically to 8 rounds to 4 which give or take a round is how I saw it, I think throwing the kitchen sink at him would be his best hope but hey itâs heavyweight boxing and as we all know it only takes one shot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,113 Posted June 15 Report Share Posted June 15 3 hours ago, Greyman said: Mate I have put the punch count video up 3 times fury had a few good rounds mid fight but lost most of the rest final clean punchâs landed was 65 by fury to 100 by Usyk that would equate mathematically to 8 rounds to 4 which give or take a round is how I saw it, I think throwing the kitchen sink at him would be his best hope but hey itâs heavyweight boxing and as we all know it only takes one shot that punch count vid was comical lol punch count vid equates to 8-4 lol what about the 30 unanswered punches in round 9? it Was 50/50 usyk turned the tide wh n he broke furyâs nose that slow d fury down it was a very good fight there will b a few more 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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