kanny 20,433 Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 2 hours ago, Greyman said: Personally out of it all I think Danial dubious can walk away from last night feeling like he’s moved up the ladder a bit been well impressed with his last two fights think he’s getting himself back in the running after the loses he suffered still only 26 in a division full of lads at the end, took some big shots but clinched when he needed to showed a good engine and I thought was moving a bit better and less stiff than his early days when he was just trying to blast everyone out There's been a vast improvement on his movement for sure he did really well 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 Heavyweight boxing is beginning a revival in blighty. Happy days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,702 Posted June 2 Report Share Posted June 2 4 hours ago, Blackmag said: I think your man fury might after that loss its going to seriously play on his mind losing that undefeated record but looking back at various interviews he had before the fight he had a nervousness I haven't seen before uysk wasn't interested in his mind games and I don't think there will be a rematch and if he does I can't see anything but a uysk win Fury lost his first fight with mcdermot, never mind the result, and everyone knows. And who exactly has fury fought, on the 'world's best level'? And please don't say klitschko, he hardly threw a punch during the whole fight! Then wilder, who can't box, and put fury on his arse 4 times in 3 fights!! Lol . Fury, what a world beater, eh?! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pesky1972 5,217 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 Just saw this online and it sums up the last few years in a nutshell. I never bought it and Usyk is now rightly crowned aa the best in the division. Doesn’t mean to say there’s no value in Fury v AJ, or either rematching Usyk. I’d pay to watch. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,130 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 3 hours ago, pesky1972 said: Just saw this online and it sums up the last few years in a nutshell. I never bought it and Usyk is now rightly crowned aa the best in the division. Doesn’t mean to say there’s no value in Fury v AJ, or either rematching Usyk. I’d pay to watch. Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell, though I have heard there is a bloke from hull that still thinks fury is going to come back and reign again as an all time god of the ring lol 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 1 minute ago, Greyman said: Pretty much sums it up in a nutshell, though I have heard there is a bloke from hull that still thinks fury is going to come back and reign again as an all time god of the ring lol Sometimes hero worship is a symptom of homo eroticism. I think there's a lot of that type of thing in Yorkshire. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,800 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 13 hours ago, shaaark said: Fury lost his first fight with mcdermot, never mind the result, and everyone knows. And who exactly has fury fought, on the 'world's best level'? And please don't say klitschko, he hardly threw a punch during the whole fight! Then wilder, who can't box, and put fury on his arse 4 times in 3 fights!! Lol . Fury, what a world beater, eh?! Lol Maybe even the greatest there ever was. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,038 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 22 hours ago, shaaark said: Fury lost his first fight with mcdermot, never mind the result, and everyone knows. And who exactly has fury fought, on the 'world's best level'? And please don't say klitschko, he hardly threw a punch during the whole fight! Then wilder, who can't box, and put fury on his arse 4 times in 3 fights!! Lol . Fury, what a world beater, eh?! Lol I have never said anything different buddy me personally I thought the wallin fight should of been stopped with furys cut I also thought McDermott won also but being honest uysk and his camp have conducted themselves like champions with respect to the sport and modesty to the furys 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,702 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 4 minutes ago, Blackmag said: I have never said anything different buddy me personally I thought the wallin fight should of been stopped with furys cut I also thought McDermott won also but being honest uysk and his camp have conducted themselves like champions with respect to the sport and modesty to the furys Didn't intend my post to come across a tad stroppy, sorry mate lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,130 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 Bet he wishes he could rewind and erase lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,433 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 Hopefully we get AJ vs Dubious in the UK, Dubious needs to work on his defence I think , its going to be a battle of anxiety vs autism 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, kanny said: Hopefully we get AJ vs Dubious in the UK, Dubious needs to work on his defence I think , its going to be a battle of anxiety vs autism Let's hope it's not a chess game with two over muscled gym rats. We want to see violence not a tactical battle. I wonder if AJ will open up like he used to, or be the over trained chess piece he has developed into? Dubois will come to fight but he can't take too many of those bombs Hgrovic was landing. As you say his defence is poor. Dubois looks very easy to hit, he seems to carry his chin high. I noticed at the weekend Bivol carries his chin right down on his chest. Look and learn Danny boy. Edited June 4 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 On 31/05/2024 at 17:22, jukel123 said: I think Dubois has a lot of physical attributes. Fast hands included .His biggest problem imo is his self belief. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when he quit against Joyce with that eye socket injury whereas I remember you were critical of him. Against Usyk he could have continued physically, but Usyk just dismantled him mentally. Usyk says himself he never leaves you alone and that breaks fighters. Pressure fighters are a nightmare, but Usyk is deadly accurate as well and relentless. He tests fighters mental resolve as much as anything. This is Dubois's last chance, if he doesn't put on a warrior display and show more heart,he may as well pack in. He's got the tools ,we'll see if he's got the minerals. His first trainer was a pal of mine training out of a gym i know well so i saw a lot of him early on Daniel had all the physical attributes you'd want in a young fighter,explosive fast,light on his feet....but a bit later on i saw him have a few spars that didnt fill you with confidence..... he was like a little boy in a mans body,his father was an absolute pain in the arse but someone Daniel naturally looked to in any kind of uncomfortable moment he was always a shy kid really unsure of himself and it was hard to watch at times.....personally i dont think you can put in what nature left out and Daniel in my mind isnt a fighter in his heart and will look for a way out if the moment is on him,i hope im wrong as he's a genuinely nice lad who could still go a long way regardless.....Daniel is a rhythm fighter and both Joyce and Usyk both took him out of that rhythm in different ways but thats what made him quit....the Usyk one was slightly more excusable as just like Lomachenko he can make good fighters quit.....both Usyk and Loma can take your soul as an opponent and make you " no mas " by simply taking your hope away its nothing to do with quitting on pain its quitting on hopelessness and it takes great fighters to do that. Not entirely sure how good Hergovic was but Daniel came through some sticky moments and performed well so good luck to him id love to be proved wrong. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 On 31/05/2024 at 17:26, mC HULL said: the half a the fight were he was picking him apart walking him on to shots it was a close fight You was either watching a different fight to me or seeing what you want to see......picking him apart ffs ! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,025 Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 On 02/06/2024 at 09:47, NEWKID said: Wilder has always been an extremely poor boxer, last few fights he looks shot... yes he had that big right hand, but that was it, Fury beat him fair and square, but I always thought the fights were a mess and couldn't see the big boxing IQ others did in Fury off the back of those fights... Wilder seems a decent bloke and I hope he stops now as there's nothing left for him imo Perfectly put.....only in such a poor era could such a poor fighter go as far as he did in the game.....had he not been American i have my doubts he would have ever fought for a title i cant think of any fighter over the years so reliant on one punch.....i always hoped Wilder would fight Usyk as it would have been hilarious watching him trip over his own feet As you say he seems a nice fella and a nice story what with his kids and whatever so good luck to him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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