Boxing At The Weekend...

[gnasher16 30,118]

The schoolboy worship a couple of you lads have for Fury is funny as f**k !

I remember us young lads arguing about the Muhammad Ali - Leon Spinks fights as teenagers you look back now and think what a load of old bollocks that was.....history is good like that rivalries that meant so much at the time pan out into insignificance,in 50 years time nobody is going to remember Joshua or Fury they just havent impacted sport enough.

Its funny i often think how the Yanks will look back at this era with embarrassment at what they've done with Wilder.....all the iconic heavyweights they've had through the era's from Dempsey/Marciano/Louis/Ali/Frazier etc etc.....then in this generation such was their desperation to continue ruling heavyweight boxing they threw in a ringer like Wilder  

I hope we never see another American heavyweight champion they'll soon lose interest then.

Edited April 3 by gnasher16

[gnasher16 30,118]

1 hour ago, oxo said:

David Haye destroyed Chisora, Fury was the only one to beat Klitschko without the knockout. One of the shittest title fights I've ever seen.

With a strong referee who wouldnt tolerate Fury's mauling and leaning David Haye for the first 4 rounds would have been an absolute nightmare for Fury .....pinpoint accuracy,decent power,explosive.....on a purely boxer versus puncher match up id have fancied Haye there.

Different type of fighter completely but similar to Usyk/Fury the outcome could depend on the referee....Usyk is a far superior fighter so if Fury's not allowed to use his size advantage because of a strong ref who wont tolerate his antics theres a good chance Fury ends up getting disqualified.

Edited April 3 by gnasher16

[bird 9,897]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

With a strong referee who wouldnt tolerate Fury's mauling and leaning David Haye for the first 4 rounds would have been an absolute nightmare for Fury .....pinpoint accuracy,decent power,explosive.....on a purely boxer versus puncher match up id have fancied Haye there.

Different type of fighter completely but similar to Usyk/Fury the outcome could depend on the referee....Usyk is a far superior fighter so if Fury's not allowed to use his size advantage because of a strong ref who wont tolerate his antics theres a good chance Fury ends up getting disqualified.

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

[bird 9,897]

Just now, bird said:

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  6ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

 

[mC HULL 12,502]

2 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

With a strong referee who wouldnt tolerate Fury's mauling and leaning David Haye for the first 4 rounds would have been an absolute nightmare for Fury .....pinpoint accuracy,decent power,explosive.....on a purely boxer versus puncher match up id have fancied Haye there.

Different type of fighter completely but similar to Usyk/Fury the outcome could depend on the referee....Usyk is a far superior fighter so if Fury's not allowed to use his size advantage because of a strong ref who wont tolerate his antics theres a good chance Fury ends up getting disqualified.

 

 

15 minutes ago, bird said:

good point  that Gnash , god knows how this fight going to pan out,Usyk  team will know what will happen i dare say.I mean what fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb , same size as Ali  at his best .Yeh weak ref Usyk will loose this deff, the  mauling and holing will sap Usyk. u nless his team can get him to attack quick in/out  like he did with Aj 2 fights. he deff can drop Fury  , he got enough power at nearly 16st, but going to be hard unless strong ref   . 

with a strong ref frazier would a beaten ali everytime they fought lol 

lewis klitschko all use to hit and hold it’s what tall fighters do ain’t it ? 

they won’t be no holding any way usyk won’t be charging in it will be a boxing match let’s see who has the better skill 

[shaaark 10,752]

2 hours ago, bird said:

 fury 6ft 9in prob com in 18st  5lb there about i was reading he dropped  1 st .Usyk  5ft 3in prob come in 15st   12 lb 

Kin el, bird, you're as bad as fury calling usyk a midget!!

Come on, mate, get your act together!! 

[NEWKID 27,153]

2 hours ago, shaaark said:

Kin el, bird, you're as bad as fury calling usyk a midget!!

Come on, mate, get your act together!! 

It's most unlike Ray to be out on height or weight, that's his "thing" lol

[shaaark 10,752]

1 hour ago, NEWKID said:

It's most unlike Ray to be out on height or weight, that's his "thing" lol

If only usyk had been german, or a shepherd?!! 

[gnasher16 30,118]

9 hours ago, mC HULL said:

 

 

with a strong ref frazier would a beaten ali everytime they fought lol 

lewis klitschko all use to hit and hold it’s what tall fighters do ain’t it ? 

they won’t be no holding any way usyk won’t be charging in it will be a boxing match let’s see who has the better skill 

How do you work that out ? Ali had no real size/weight advantage....when he held in the clinch it was for the same reason any fighter holds in the clinch,not to drain his opponent with a 6 inch height and 3 stone weight advantage like Fury does....likewise Lewis/Klitschko were both the same size.....and no holding and hitting is not permitted and shouldnt be tolerated by any decent referee....particularly when one fighter is gaining a significant advantage from doing it.

I remember refs years ago like old Harry Gibbs or Dave Parris would of given you 2 warnings then you're out of there.....a referee is there to not just uphold the rules but also to encourage a good fight.

Edited April 3 by gnasher16

[mC HULL 12,502]

9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

How do you work that out ? Ali had no real size/weight advantage....when he held in the clinch it was for the same reason any fighter holds in the clinch,not to drain his opponent with a 6 inch height and 3 stone weight advantage like Fury does....likewise Lewis/Klitschko were both the same size.....and no holding and hitting is not permitted and shouldnt be tolerated by any decent referee....particularly when one fighter is gaining a significant advantage from doing it.

I remember refs years ago like old Harry Gibbs or Dave Parris would of given you 2 warnings then you're out of there.....a referee is there to not just uphold the rules but also to encourage a good fight.

frazier won the first the second i’ve never seen anyone holding and holding the head as much as ali did ever in a fight ? and the 3rd frazier wanted to carry on ali was trying to jack 

i meant both lewis and klitschko would both hit and hold against smaller opposition 

keep them at distance and tie up on inside has always been used by taller fighters mate 

 

[Greyman 28,439]

Doesn’t your knowledge no no boundary’s lol

[mC HULL 12,502]

2 minutes ago, Greyman said:

Doesn’t your knowledge no no boundary’s lol

not a lot i can reply to that lol

[gnasher16 30,118]

On 03/04/2024 at 23:04, mC HULL said:

 

keep them at distance and tie up on inside has always been used by taller fighters mate 

 

Are we actually going to pretend that Fury just " ties up on the inside " then ?.....what would he gain from doing that ?

Fury doesnt " tie up " he mauls......he doesnt " hold " he drags his weight down.

Dont be afraid to say it he does these things for a reason and it works.

Regards the Ali/Frazier bouts you are wrong,but such iconic fights just dont belong in a conversation about Tyson Fury sorry.

[gnasher16 30,118]

On 03/04/2024 at 23:04, mC HULL said:

 and the 3rd frazier wanted to carry on ali was trying to jack 

 

I kind of skipped over this as it didnt seem to warrant a reply but after reading it again f**k me what a funny world you must live in 

Probably the most brutal and punishing fight in the history of the sport and you're calling one of them a cur for crying out loud 

Edited April 4 by gnasher16

[mC HULL 12,502]

55 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Are we actually going to pretend that Fury just " ties up on the inside " then ?.....what would he gain from doing that ?

Fury doesnt " tie up " he mauls......he doesnt " hold " he drags his weight down.

Dont be afraid to say it he does these things for a reason and it works.

Regards the Ali/Frazier bouts you are wrong,but such iconic fights just dont belong in a conversation about Tyson Fury sorry.

i just think he does what anyone would use his advantages