NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Astanley said: He is past his peak ,,but ,,he is the best I have ever seen . Yeah brilliant boxer mate, great amature.. do you think the likes of him and Usyk staying in the amatures for so many fights then having a relatively short pro career on terms of number of fights goes against them as far as all time greats type accolades... When you look at someone like Roy Jones with 70 odd fights, multiple world titles as a pro and a pretty impressive amature carrer.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 20 minutes ago, shaaark said: Anyone in mind, nk? Tbh the top 4 (if Fury, Wilder, Usyk and Joshua are that) fight so little its a joke, 1 fights a year pretty much... I can't be assed to look but I reckon they've each fought no more than 4 maybe 5 times in the last 4 years, when they are supposedly in their prime... more time spent not making the right fights than actually doing it... its not just Fury mate, but he certainly makes a public scene of every negotiation... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,698 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, NEWKID said: Yeah brilliant boxer mate, great amature.. do you think the likes of him and Usyk staying in the amatures for so many fights then having a relatively short pro career on terms of number of fights goes against them as far as all time greats type accolades... When you look at someone like Roy Jones with 70 odd fights, multiple world titles as a pro and a pretty impressive amature carrer.. roy jones was better than lomachenko ffs lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, mC HULL said: roy jones was better than lomachenko ffs lol Are you saying Roy Jones was better? Or presuming I was saying Roy Jones was better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,698 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Are you saying Roy Jones was better? Or presuming I was saying Roy Jones was better? ye i’m saying roy jones was much better mate a stanley must be punch drunk to think loma is the best ever he’s been beaten twice in 17 fights lol Edited April 24, 2023 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 Just now, mC HULL said: ye i’m saying roy jones was much better mate a stanley must be punch drunk to think loma is the best ever he’s been beaten twice in 17 fights lol Thats why I put his amature credentials into the mix, don't know the figures exactly but over 300 amature fights and 1 loss I think, I think hes lost once at pro tbh.. But I think Stan likes his style, more than the record.. For me Jones is up with the best, he went on too long though 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 What about this lad though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyormy1 191 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 these fights should of happend couple of years ago imo politics in the game has prevented that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,698 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Thats why I put his amature credentials into the mix, don't know the figures exactly but over 300 amature fights and 1 loss I think, I think hes lost once at pro tbh.. But I think Stan likes his style, more than the record.. For me Jones is up with the best, he went on too long though good amateurs like usyk he lost in his 2 fight as a pro to salido for the title jones is up there as my favorite boxer like inoue he had power Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tonyormy1 191 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, mC HULL said: ye i’m saying roy jones was much better mate a stanley must be punch drunk to think loma is the best ever he’s been beaten twice in 17 fights lol mc he never said he was better than [NO TEXT TALK] HE said hes the best he has seen and if i remember right did loma not take out 3 divisions and if its 17 fights that speaks volumes to me 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Astanley 11,568 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Yeah brilliant boxer mate, great amature.. do you think the likes of him and Usyk staying in the amatures for so many fights then having a relatively short pro career on terms of number of fights goes against them as far as all time greats type accolades... When you look at someone like Roy Jones with 70 odd fights, multiple world titles as a pro and a pretty impressive amature carrer.. I do mate yes ,and I'm quite happy to have people disagree with me ,I certainly wouldn't call them punch drunk for having an opinion ,,I think sometimes people get a bit hung up on records etc ,I see what I see ,and technically I have never seen anyone better .but it's just an opinion . 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,698 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, tonyormy1 said: mc he never said he was better than [NO TEXT TALK] HE said hes the best he has seen and if i remember right did loma not take out 3 divisions and if its 17 fights that speaks volumes to me he’s never took out one division has he mate ? most he’s held is two titles in a weight class never 4 has he? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, mC HULL said: good amateurs like usyk he lost in his 2 fight as a pro to salido for the title jones is up there as my favorite boxer like inoue he had power Yeah your right mate, couldn't remember but was salido and Lopez... had to check his record 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,698 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 a stanley has to be the hardest there is on here to get a bite from ffs lol it’s nearly impossible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,176 Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Astanley said: I do mate yes ,and I'm quite happy to have people disagree with me ,I certainly wouldn't call them punch drunk for having an opinion ,,I think sometimes people get a bit hung up on records etc ,I see what I see ,and technically I have never seen anyone better .but it's just an opinion . I get your reason mate, technically he is brilliant, I'm the same regards records, look at Mayweather i don't put him in my favourite boxers but his record is impeccable, calzaghe the same...certainly wouldn't argue your opinion.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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