kanny 20,504 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 It's not a case of Hrgovic or joyce being overrated but a case of zhang be underrated...joyce needs to stay away from capable southpaws they are all wrong for him zhang was able to neutralise Joyce's jab and was quicker with the straight down the pipe left that joyce is with the right...I had joyce as favourite I thought he'd weather the storm and come on late as zhang faded but it wasn't to be, that's heavyweight boxing for you. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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dogmad riley 1,343 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Joyce a big stiff idiot, big bang zhan alot better and robbed in the Czech fight 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 1,833 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, dogmad riley said: Joyce a big stiff idiot, big bang zhan alot better and robbed in the Czech fight Never been a fan find him a flat footed plodder a poor heavy weight division has put him higher than he ever should have been really a decent fighter would have always found him out his chin has always been called solid but get a dig off a big hitter always goin to wobble most chins 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,721 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just watched the zhang hrgovic fight, twice, with the sound off, not to be sidetracked lol. Was impressed with hrgovic's punch resistance, as zhang caught him with several shots that would've seen most heavyweights flattened!! Good scrap, to be fair. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,132 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: hygrovic hasn’t fought wilder has he or was it amateurs ? Your right, my memory has let me down.. lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,303 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, NEWKID said: Your right, my memory has let me down.. lol i’ve jus been looking lol didn’t know if they fought in the amatueurs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,721 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: hygrovic hasn’t fought wilder has he or was it amateurs ? 1 minute ago, mC HULL said: i’ve jus been looking lol didn’t know if they fought in the amatueurs I found a few vids on you tube, of them sparring in 2013. Hrgovic easily holding his own against wilder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,303 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, shaaark said: I found a few vids on you tube, of them sparring in 2013. Hrgovic easily holding his own against wilder. sparring in 18oz gloves with a head guard on will dampen that wilder right hand ill have a look later mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,721 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 @mC HULL David Haye training camp. 2013. Hrgovic was only 19. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,303 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, shaaark said: @mC HULL David Haye training camp. 2013. Hrgovic was only 19. seen bits ages ago i’ll have a look later was the training for fury ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,721 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: seen bits ages ago i’ll have a look later was the training for fury ? Yep that's the one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,062 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Havent been to the Copperbox for a while and its a venue ive always liked so got over there last night mainly to support little Sam Noakes who had a nice win....Joyce i think paid the price for relying on his physicality....no head movement,doesnt really try to avoid getting hit.....durability and toughness will only get you so far i cant for the life of me understand why he invested in whats his name Salas his trainer if he's not going to learn how to box its such a shame as he's relentless going forward but so predictable in his movement and punch picking......then again it could be said thats the risk in taking fights with dangerous opponents, its a shame a few others simply refuse to do it !! Anyway bollocks to the heavyweight farce all i care about now is the boy Ryder id give my left bollock to see him get a win on May 6th,squeaky bum time that will be,its hard to see him pull it out the bag but stranger things have happened,if im not wrong John H Stracey from these parts was the last Brit to take a world title out of Mexico and that was nearly 50 years ago ! Edited April 16, 2023 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,721 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: if im not wrong John H Stracey from these parts was the last Brit to take a world title out of Mexico and that was nearly 50 years ago ! Jose napolese 1975 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,517 Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Havent been to the Copperbox for a while and its a venue ive always liked so got over there last night mainly to support little Sam Noakes who had a nice win....Joyce i think paid the price for relying on his physicality....no head movement,doesnt really try to avoid getting hit.....durability and toughness will only get you so far i cant for the life of me understand why he invested in whats his name Salas his trainer if he's not going to learn how to box its such a shame as he's relentless going forward but so predictable in his movement and punch picking......then again it could be said thats the risk in taking fights with dangerous opponents, its a shame a few others simply refuse to do it !! Anyway bollocks to the heavyweight farce all i care about now is the boy Ryder id give my left bollock to see him get a win on May 6th,squeaky bum time that will be,its hard to see him pull it out the bag but stranger things have happened,if im not wrong John H Stracey from these parts was the last Brit to take a world title out of Mexico and that was nearly 50 years ago ! Not being funny Gnash but how can anyone talk about people ducking fights or not taking risks when Canello is getting in the ring with a lad like Ryder? In his home town? Like sending someone to the firing squad, poor state of affairs that for me. Hats of to Ryder like for taking it, it'll be a story for him about when he lost, but there is many more fights canelo could be looking at. Equivalent to Fury taking me on in his local gym, apart from Ryder got no chance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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