NEWKID 27,016 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, mC HULL said: he was a gold medalist wilder won bronze got stopped by ali lost to and got outboxed by a fighter with 18 losses came back fought garbage lost to holyfield got outboxed by tommy morrison In his first stint he fought in probably the best era in the heavies and other than All beat the lot, Frazier, Norton, Lyle.. there is no shame in losing to Ali, is there? He fought and beat Frazier twice, most would have Frazier in there top 10 of all time imo... He lost to Holyfield when he was over 40, and to Morrison, who was well respected at the time (but that fight was shit!)... I can't remember who he lost to after the Frazier fight... but I think Shannon Briggs was his last fight... so in his prime he lost to Ali and one other... Like I say we all see things differently, but I very much doubt anyone would have Wilder in their top 10... but most would have Foreman 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, NEWKID said: In his first stint he fought in probably the best era in the heavies and other than All beat the lot, Frazier, Norton, Lyle.. there is no shame in losing to Ali, is there? He fought and beat Frazier twice, most would have Frazier in there top 10 of all time imo... He lost to Holyfield when he was over 40, and to Morrison, who was well respected at the time (but that fight was shit!)... I can't remember who he lost to after the Frazier fight... but I think Shannon Briggs was his last fight... so in his prime he lost to Ali and one other... Like I say we all see things differently, but I very much doubt anyone would have Wilder in their top 10... but most would have Foreman he lost to ali beat frazier luke etc and then lost to young who was beaten 18 times that’s when he retired 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,016 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: he lost to ali beat frazier luke etc and then lost to young who was beaten 18 times that’s when he retired Yeah thats it Young, cheers.. had something wrong with him didnt he after the fight? and like you say retired... Anyway his record and calibre of fighters on it is miles above any of the current crop, surely there is no argument there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,019 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 I honestly believe you have more chance of seeing wilf dancing at a Caribbean festival or max wearing a Newcastle shirt than this fight happening there already arguing about dates then you have who is signed to who ppv wise to be fair I think fury is a decent lad but all this bollocks that were going to get for weeks is boring it's going to go back and forth and no fight at the end 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,666 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blackmag said: I honestly believe you have more chance of seeing wilf dancing at a Caribbean festival or max wearing a Newcastle shirt than this fight happening there already arguing about dates then you have who is signed to who ppv wise to be fair I think fury is a decent lad but all this bollocks that were going to get for weeks is boring it's going to go back and forth and no fight at the end Exactly what I've been trying to tell Magoo. This fight is NOT going to happen, and it'll be down to fury, again. Edited September 7, 2022 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 27,016 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Francie said: This threads a belter lol Decent to have a yap, bit of banter but no calling each other c**ts every 5 minutes etc... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Yeah thats it Young, cheers.. had something wrong with him didnt he after the fight? and like you say retired... Anyway his record and calibre of fighters on it is miles above any of the current crop, surely there is no argument there? he fought quality no doubt mate but he could be easily outboxed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, shaaark said: Magoo, I'll say this one last time. Take those oversized blinkers off, and have a 'real' look at wilder's record of opponents, and who his opponents fought, how many wins, losses, where they were ranked, by which organisation etc etc. And again, when fury fought klitschko, klitschko hardly threw a punch, while fury was in reverse gear for three quarters of every round. Compare that to klitschko/joshua. Night and day, completely different, exciting fight. Now, away with you. so a bronze medalist in the olympics 40 fight win streak knocking out everyone he fought and winning and defending the wbc title ten times can be done by someone can’t box and is poor ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,019 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, shaaark said: Exactly what I've been trying to tell Magoo. This fight is NOT going to happen, and it'll be down to fury, again. Aj has nothing to lose but has everything to gain but fury is still keeping himself relevant by this nonsense im retiring im not I what this purse I want that I will fight this body yes he's wbc champ but at the end of the day usyk holds 3 belts and as the main say I have nothing against fury but either make it happen or stay quiet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Blackmag said: Aj has nothing to lose but has everything to gain but fury is still keeping himself relevant by this nonsense im retiring im not I what this purse I want that I will fight this body yes he's wbc champ but at the end of the day usyk holds 3 belts and as the main say I have nothing against fury but either make it happen or stay quiet usyk is all of a sudden injured and isn’t a draw fury is the draw isn’t he come on usyk is 5 fights at heavyweight hasn’t looked like knocking anyone on there arse yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,019 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, mC HULL said: usyk is all of a sudden injured and isn’t a draw fury is the draw isn’t he come on usyk is 5 fights at heavyweight hasn’t looked like knocking anyone on there arse yet Mc I don't know enough about the insides and outside of boxing to really comment but usyk is not injured the only way fury wins is because of size and that is if he wins pound for pound fury is no were near usyk as for fury v aj like I said I will believe it when there in the ring but I can't see that happening for many reasons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Blackmag said: Mc I don't know enough about the insides and outside of boxing to really comment but usyk is not injured the only way fury wins is because of size and that is if he wins pound for pound fury is no were near usyk as for fury v aj like I said I will believe it when there in the ring but I can't see that happening for many reasons no we’re near usyk he’s a runner who throws punches with his arms weak as fack mate old chisora had him running around the ring like track star don’t believe the hype Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,019 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Mc I don't know enough to get involved about the technical side I know he's unbeaten and champion till we see theses fights no one knows the out come 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,019 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 One thing I would say mc limit the weight in the heavy weights to a certain weight and the likes of fury ect be put in super heavy weight due to there size because no other division has that kind of weight disadvantage we see in some fights Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 11,840 Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Blackmag said: One thing I would say mc limit the weight in the heavy weights to a certain weight and the likes of fury ect be put in super heavy weight due to there size because no other division has that kind of weight disadvantage we see in some fights foreman bowe there’s always been heavy heavyweights mate it’s in the name Edited September 7, 2022 by mC HULL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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