Wales1234 5,490 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 This dog won't be chucking in the towel on his second season that's for sure. Dogs none stop day/night, il keep posted this dog ain't no reverse an won't be jacking on his second season ?. He's not that dog or from any litter of the same I can assure this dogs not chucking in no towelAny dog can mate there dogs not robots simple as ! 3 Quote Link to post
Kieransingo 256 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 This dog won't be chucking in the towel on his second season that's for sure. Dogs none stop day/night, il keep posted this dog ain't no reverse an won't be jacking on his second season ?. He's not that dog or from any litter of the same I can assure this dogs not chucking in no towelAny dog can mate there dogs not robots simple as ! that's right but I have high hopes with this dog il keep each posted every season with him at moment he's flying. Quote Link to post
Trev70 5,185 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Iv seen dogs give up late on in life but likes been said if for own use don't see what it's got to do with anyone else ! That could be a lot of dogs for own use lol the point is he said to others a dog should have 3 to 4 seasons under its belt before breeding. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 total different shape dogs Nice dogs them mate, I never put collie into my bulls thinking I didn't want them to have too much brain lol, we did a lot down south and they could get on 4 to 5 a night all ways single handed but some lads back then said the collie bulls were the best they have owned. Here one of the last I bred out of a 8 year old bitch about 10 ago , not my pic I didn't take them back then.I know of that dog, believe it was a handy enough animal in its time... Quote Link to post
Trev70 5,185 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) One thing I've learnt off this forum, if/when I take a litter from one of mine, I won't announce the plans on here Why anyone feels they need to tell the world on these forums what they get up always amazes me... I think it's because it's nice when like minded folk have got an interest in what you are doing. They ask questions and offer ideas etc. But you often get more negative responses than positive on here, regardless of what you are doing or how you are doing it. This is the nature of the Beast,..t'Internet... It is great to be around like-minded souls,..just as long as they truly are, like-minded and not simply critics....Breeding from seemingly, untested young canines , has always been a contentious subject and in an ideal world, we would all choose to up our odds and try to go for a definite winning combo....Sadly, in the real world, life ain't like that.... You can lose,..way before, you choose,..and I've learn't to go with a gut feeling when breeding lurchers...If you have faith in the end result,..then bite the bullet, go for it and be damned... I learn't, five decades ago,.that what a man chooses to keep,.or wishes to hunt,.is entirely a matter for his own conscience...he has to feed the critter,...end of story... By the same token, it is comforting to know, that good advice is readily available on Hunting Forums,...and the fact is,..what with all the literature, DVD's and well documented knowledge, that is free of charge nowadays, there really is no excuse for being a c**t... What about the poor c**ts that buy the rest of the litter on your gut feeling. when breeding I think you have to put the best to the best and hope for the best. Edited March 31, 2016 by Trev70 1 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Whats done is done... Lloydys post made enough sense to me. Thing is, i've hung on for those extra seasons under a dogs belt to better the pups (line bred stuff too, so i half knew what was comin!) Only to lose the dog 7 years in to a freak accident... Now that boils piss... That makes everything wrong. That can change direction... If you have faith in the blood, then go for the youngster (old dogs are a long time dead!) BUT... and its a massive BUT, i gotta agree with Doubleya, if ya believe the rest to go to grafting homes, they are giveaways, from half untested stock... Just my opinion... Quote Link to post
Chid 6,508 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I bred from a bitch of 2 1/2 yrs old ... Luckily I only had 2 pups , i gifted the one i didn't keep , i wouldn't of sold a pup out of young stock Quote Link to post
D Lloyd 2,790 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 cant repil to every one ill be here all night the way i spell and have to read it back a dozon times lol.look up iv trid to right i repli to you for 20 minits jest done no were to start saw the best i can do it not bother. to ever one ell the matings been done with me in mined and iv put it on here jest to have a chat with like mined lads about it. not asking any one to buy a pup if there is any pups. i new it would not be ever ones cup of tea breeding off a youg dog.iv had a few very handy dogs jest to name two caled died at 5 and a half no pups dog done some wicked night and days for me over 100 rabbits in one night weres his pups never had nun was to bizy proving him self.spider pig had some wicked nights for the short time i run him were is his pups he had nun he was also young but every one that seen him work weather it was with 3 legs or for legs sed if you dont keep him you are mad not to take straws off him tryed that it did not hapen.now this dog as had time on his side were sp did not so hes done a lot more so i cant see the difrence in that respeced.i now what id like to get from him and ruby that would be a nice strong dog pup some were betwen 25 and 27 inches if it comes out 23 inches looking like a sheep dog ill keep it and it will work and do what i want so thats that.y a dog pup so i dont need to go down this road any more.iv gifted fare more pups than iv ever sold evan a whool litter and it nealy all ways gos bad so if i now you well and now it will get worked hard and be well looked after you will have one if you want one.if i have a few over am i going to put a post and here two free pups am i hell be cose you do atraced a serten caricter that way so they will be what i think is a fare price not you. if now one thinks my pups from my pup are worth a gamble thats fine they will not end up in dogs home or walking the streets they will go were i think is best. this prob would come a cross the way i ment it but its best i could do 8 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 cant repil to every one ill be here all night the way i spell and have to read it back a dozon times lol.look up iv trid to right i repli to you for 20 minits jest done no were to start saw the best i can do it not bother. to ever one ell the matings been done with me in mined and iv put it on here jest to have a chat with like mined lads about it. not asking any one to buy a pup if there is any pups. i new it would not be ever ones cup of tea breeding off a youg dog.iv had a few very handy dogs jest to name two caled died at 5 and a half no pups dog done some wicked night and days for me over 100 rabbits in one night weres his pups never had nun was to bizy proving him self.spider pig had some wicked nights for the short time i run him were is his pups he had nun he was also young but every one that seen him work weather it was with 3 legs or for legs sed if you dont keep him you are mad not to take straws off him tryed that it did not hapen.now this dog as had time on his side were sp did not so hes done a lot more so i cant see the difrence in that respeced.i now what id like to get from him and ruby that would be a nice strong dog pup some were betwen 25 and 27 inches if it comes out 23 inches looking like a sheep dog ill keep it and it will work and do what i want so thats that.y a dog pup so i dont need to go down this road any more.iv gifted fare more pups than iv ever sold evan a whool litter and it nealy all ways gos bad so if i now you well and now it will get worked hard and be well looked after you will have one if you want one.if i have a few over am i going to put a post and here two free pups am i hell be cose you do atraced a serten caricter that way so they will be what i think is a fare price not you. if now one thinks my pups from my pup are worth a gamble thats fine they will not end up in dogs home or walking the streets they will go were i think is best. this prob would come a cross the way i ment it but its best i could do That'll do Dai... That'll do.... Sounds right to me.. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Edited.....I done a long reply only to see Lloydys master peice lol 2 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,480 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 whats the beter lurcher just Bull/greyhound is fine for me. 2 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 whats the beter lurcher just Bull/greyhound is fine for me.Ha! Me too.. Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Like I said dai, older would be better but you feed them and raise them and bury them They have both been ran hard and are good lurchers . For the game you are in they will do exactly what you want. If they are lemons you will be the first to say so. And I'm sure the one you keep will be worked hard enough to see if you have done the right thing . You haven't twisted anyone's arm to have one ,good luck with any pups you get 1 Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 whats the beter lurcherjust Bull/greyhound is fine for me.Ha! Me too.. would you have paul , a bullxgreyxsaluki xgrey line bred, that bit of saluki i reckon deff gets a more of a alround type hunting dog than just a straight pit x grey .!! Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 It's nice to know that the parents are worked regular but i don't think it's essential. Ye you contradicted yourself by advising 4-5 seasons when your dog only had one. So what. Your dogs your choice not doing it for money. There's plenty of dogs out of really good stuff that jack, there's dogs out of untried parents doing really well. Never used or seen a line bred lurcher work so can't comment. Iv seen a good number of terriers from genuine lines etc that have jacked after an easy life. They say line bred is best etc maybe, but they still produce jackers. Lol It is what it is, they are animals, and no amount of theories will ever explain them fully. Abit off topic, but what I'm getting at is, you pup could be worked 10 seasons and from the best blood in country and still produce crap. its the chance you take when ever a mating takes place. Good luck Quote Link to post
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