Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 I remember the working certs here and remember laughing with another lad when the capt gave a cert to a black dog as it had been" to a fox for a short while ".Those were his words .Meant nothing to us as do the European certs .Only watching a trial on youtube earlier and smiling to my self . Working certs here once meant a terrier had served a season as a reliable worker but shows and money men put a stop to that paying for them, and probably for the best . 1 Quote Link to post
Accip74 7,112 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 it would surprise me if the countries that have less restrictions than us have nothing of worth. of course folk can only comment on what they see but you have to wonder if its the dreggs that get sent over by dealers with no standards. I doubt the majority of those jagds are probably suitable as out & out digging dogs, they were never originally bred for that......but no doubt some exist. Zilverhaze off here dug to a decent one to badger in Eastern Europe, but that's just one haha...... ....on the flip side, we're forever reading on here how lads can't source decent dogs or don't know the right folk, lads complaining about jacker after jacker & that's black dogs etc. I myself drove to Sweden to look at some jagds, but I wasn't confident enough to take the plunge, got gifted a well bred fell bitch instead & she jacked! Hahaha.... But this comes close to balanced view & that's not what was required on this thread, was it? Haha Despite the long threads on here shouting the virtues of jagd there are very few to match our best dogs to ground .We may have tighter laws here but our standards are way higher than Europe regards one dog one dig however long .As said treehands ,what did owners have to say . Yes standards vary massively. When I was in Sweden the owners of these dogs seemed decent folk, the dogs worked above & below, but I asked what happened if dogs dropped below when boar hunting? They said if they walked away they would come out & the dogs new the difference? That was enough for me to know we were probably talking different standards..........they still interests me though haha 2 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Would that be Salisbury Downs treehands Quote Link to post
Treehands 1,417 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 No , but that is another on me county tick list. Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,872 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Most working certs abroad are baying in a man made tunnel to caged badgers/foxes/racoons, most jagds are bred for tracking above not earth work 1 Quote Link to post
kirstysdad 827 Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Some good digging round the downs been doing a bit there this year chalky but not to bad like your comment about voice in terriers something I always aim to but into any pups I bred imagine if all the belman stopped working there would be a lot of fellas not able to get out or only doing puppy spots until they were able to get some baying dogs part of the enjoyment for me is being able to hear a good terrier beneath my feet keep ticking them county's of your list I have done a few but still got plenty left gives you something to aim at 6 Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Some good digging round the downs been doing a bit there this year chalky but not to bad like your comment about voice in terriers something I always aim to but into any pups I bred imagine if all the belman stopped working there would be a lot of fellas not able to get out or only doing puppy spots until they were able to get some baying dogs part of the enjoyment for me is being able to hear a good terrier beneath my feet keep ticking them county's of your list I have done a few but still got plenty left gives you something to aim at Which makes it easier to get GOOD?? digging dogs now rather than back in the day,where if they did not bark they were useless. 4 Quote Link to post
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