Brindle Terriers

[eastcoast 4,115]

Thank you for the replies. I wish I had taken photo's of the dogs that I was thinking of. Not just the " brindles " but there were still a few Sealyham types around at the time. I wish I had spoken to the people who owned them and asked questions but didn't. I was just happy at the time to be on the outside looking in as a kid. It wasn't that long ago, forty year or so, but things and dogs have changed. Taking pics was more difficult then. Eventually I did get a 35mm SLR ( mine was a cheap Russian one but with a good lens ), then send the film off to be developed and printed. Expensive. That changed when I went to art college and I had free use of professional dark room facilities to produce prints of my stuff all day long. But they didn't like that and kicked me out when they realised what I was doing.

 

 

 

Now taking photo's is ridiculously easy. As is recording them. It is now taken for granted and lots of things may not seem important enough to capture for history. Everything is covered now. The working terrier types are established forever and their breeding recorded ? But...it may just be worth taking a photo of an odd looking tyke if you see one and go the trouble of making a print of it and have a chat to the man who owns it or bred it .

 

Regards

[redquil 219]

Seen brindle - grizzle fell types 35 year back in Northeast eastcoast. These were in Lemington just West of Newcastle. The ones I seen were bred or bred from Geordie Grahams dogs. Ugly but good grafters and over hard for my liking. There was a few in that area up until around late 80's id say. That mans son and family kept them on for a bit. Seen them on a little back then . No idea where the colour came from though. Also met an old lady with one back in early 80's said she got it from Ralph Hodgson who was an old terrier man in his 80's then. Other than bull blood the only other terriers with this type of colour ican think of is the cairn. The working cairns in Mcnallys Highland Year books were brindle-grizzle colour.atb.

[taz2010 1,297]

there is no brindle in pure pats that i can assure you

[Onlyworkmatters 1,584]

there is no brindle in pure pats that i can assure you

 

I doubt theres a line or strain of "pure pats" in the country that doesnt have foreign blood in them.

[eastcoast 4,115]

Seen brindle - grizzle fell types 35 year back in Northeast eastcoast. These were in Lemington just West of Newcastle. The ones I seen were bred or bred from Geordie Grahams dogs. Ugly but good grafters and over hard for my liking. There was a few in that area up until around late 80's id say. That mans son and family kept them on for a bit. Seen them on a little back then . No idea where the colour came from though. Also met an old lady with one back in early 80's said she got it from Ralph Hodgson who was an old terrier man in his 80's then. Other than bull blood the only other terriers with this type of colour ican think of is the cairn. The working cairns in Mcnallys Highland Year books were brindle-grizzle colour.atb.

redquil, I think you may have hit the exact nail on the head regarding the terriers that I was thinking of from the recent past. I'm a Gateshead lad and was told that these particular border/lakelands came from " ower the watta ", which didn't mean the North or Irish Sea but over the Tyne. There were a few men who had them on their gardens, the term now seems to be in their yards. Ugly yes, too game yes, but they were bred to work and nothing else. When I started getting older and more interested in dogs I gradually started to distanced myself from these lads. Conflict of ideas regarding what is sport and what isn't. Times change but no doubt those brindle dogs had no fear of anything and never quit. They didn't know how to, do or die.

 

As for the pure Paterdale taz2010 ? No way am I brave enough to open that wheelie bin full of worms : - )

 

Regards

[shepp 2,285]

I know they hav'nt been worked for maybe 100 years, but Scottish terriers come in brindle and have always had it in the breed standard. Along with Wheaton.

[krawnden 1,036]

I know they hav'nt been worked for maybe 100 years, but Scottish terriers come in brindle and have always had it in the breed standard. Along with Wheaton.

 

That's interesting - I had no idea. I wonder if there are still any about that aren't black. (Incidentally, deerhounds also used to come in different colours - brindle, red, yellow etc. Another Scottish breed that for some reason seems to have lost the diversity of its coat colour.)

[Tracy Priestnall 83]

from the early 80's i remember seeing brindle terriers but only in rough coated dog's were it was called grizzle not brindle , any smooth brindle were classed as cross-bred.or bull cross . the ' grizzle's ' i remember were out of litters throwing black ,red or black and tan pups with the occasional grizzle, no bull that i know of ,they were really thick coated. the only time i see grizzle now is on the odd pet cairn ..but your right ' were is the brindle ?

[shepp 2,285]

 

I know they hav'nt been worked for maybe 100 years, but Scottish terriers come in brindle and have always had it in the breed standard. Along with Wheaton.

 

That's interesting - I had no idea. I wonder if there are still any about that aren't black. (Incidentally, deerhounds also used to come in different colours - brindle, red, yellow etc. Another Scottish breed that for some reason seems to have lost the diversity of its coat colour.)

There were quite a few brindles still around twenty years ago, but wheatons were very rare. My nan was a kennel maid for one of the countries top breeders, she specialised in brindles. I spent quite a bit of time there as a kid, I once spent a couple of hours looking through her libray, which she held for the scotty breeders society. It was interesting to see the dogs gradually change from useful looking to what they are now, they would say improved, we would say ruined.

[tatsblisters 9,529]

I know they hav'nt been worked for maybe 100 years, but Scottish terriers come in brindle and have always had it in the breed standard. Along with Wheaton.

Remember a lad who I know had a brindeld cairn terrier 30 years back around here that was a good cover dog.

[TonyOrmy 128]

THIS 1 here is a russel x staff 15 year old

[downsouth 7,217]

there is no brindle in pure pats that i can assure you

No such thing as a pure Patterdale

[pablo esc 1,598]

There is pure jack Russell though,?, thorough bred?, or back to the Fox terrier?, two different breeds

[wezza 396]

My good pal took a bitch pup direct from nutall she will be about 15-16 months old now. Tiny little thing but keen as mustard and she's brindle. I belive the only one from the litter so he was saying.

I asked him when we went to pick it up why it was brindle and he said every so often he gets them like that, possibly a throw back to the bull?

[BlackDog1 134]

Seen one at the fell and moorland show on Saturday. Looked like a nice strong dog