Ginbear 1 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Hi everyone, New to the forum and cartridge rifles with previous experience in sub 12 and FAC .25 cal air. I am now going to buy a HMR that I have listed on my certificate. I've decided on a CZ 455 which will probably be in a synthetic stock.The rifle will be exclusively used for hunting. My question is do I get the Varmint or American or other version? Could you explain to me the particular purposes, strengths and weaknesses of each? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 It's personal preference. The varmint barrel is thicker and and heavier and designed to be able to handle lots of shots without heating up too much. The american version is (IMO) more suited to field work as it's lighter. Quote Link to post
Tremo 138 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 If you plan to lug it around while you are out hunting then definitely the lighter the better. If you want to lay on a shooting mat all day in one position then perhaps the heavier barrel will suit. Believe me, by the time you add a moderator and scope and all the other bits & pieces that we like to attach to rifles I guarantee that the thing will weigh a bloody ton! Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 +1 lads. I had the 16 inch american and was a lovely well balanced rifle Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 It's down to the individual, but this is my personal, professional and factual response. 455 Synthetic American. You have no need to worry about HOT barrels on a HMR, its almost impossible, even on the range. Neither do you need it for accuracy, and neither do you need to lug around a heavy lump of metal for field work. Synthetic rather that wood simply for weather versatility, it does help! If you want to cart around a heavy Varmint, then fine, some like heavy guns (lord knows why for field work) but you will get no accuracy advantages from it and you may be too exhausted to take the shot anyway! ATB! Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 As everyone else has stated go for the slimmer/lighter american variant in either 452 or 455. Preference wise, I'd go for the 16" Synthetic/Nickel/Style option also. Stick a trigger kit in it, and you will have a real tack driving work horse. Quote Link to post
Ginbear 1 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Thanks for the replies. American it is then but what barrel length 16 or 22? Quote Link to post
Ginbear 1 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 What's the standard version like? Quote Link to post
lksopener 105 Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 As everyone else has stated go for the slimmer/lighter american variant in either 452 or 455. Preference wise, I'd go for the 16" Synthetic/Nickel/Style option also. Stick a trigger kit in it, and you will have a real tack driving work horse. Synthetic nickel is excellent and is a really accurate nice unit. Go light weight if you ever add an NV add on you will regret buying a heavy one! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 As everyone else has stated go for the slimmer/lighter american variant in either 452 or 455. Preference wise, I'd go for the 16" Synthetic/Nickel/Style option also. Stick a trigger kit in it, and you will have a real tack driving work horse. Synthetic nickel is excellent and is a really accurate nice unit. Go light weight if you ever add an NV add on you will regret buying a heavy one! My boy had the 452 Style (Nickel) and I have the 452 Silhouette (Blued). There was no difference in performance, they are both accurate. As I look after mine there is no difference in maintenance either, although some would suggest the nickel may have the edge in harsh conditions. NOT shooting, cleaning! A trade off is a silver barrel. It's up to you, I'd put the difference as personal preference, simple as! Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Thanks for the replies. American it is then but what barrel length 16 or 22? Bullberry Barrel Length vs. Velocity DATA 22 inch = 2517 fps, 103 fps spread 21 inch = 2523 fps, 66 fps spread 20 inch = 2515 fps, 86 fps spread 19 inch = 2538 fps, 83 fps spread 18 inch = 2522 fps, 41 fps spread 17 inch = 2505 fps, 43 fps spread 16 inch = 2492 fps, 53 fps spread 15 inch = 2477 fps, 27 fps spread 14 inch = 2432 fps, 70 fps spread 13 inch = 2419 fps, 32 fps spread 12 inch = 2387 fps, 57 fps spread 11 inch = 2338 fps, 45 fps spread 10 inch = 2276 fps, 45 fps spread Extracted from here. http://www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm In the great scheme of things this is a thoroughly unscientific test and any results can at best be viewed as a guide. Just the same you will note there is very little difference between 16-22" barrels, frankly the difference will be of no interest to the vast majority of HMR shooters. Interestingly it seems their data gives it to 19". The FPS spread is of concern to me throughout the chart. I can't see scientifically why barrel length will give such a variation of FPS spread, so that comes down to the ammo in my book, which in turn will have an effect on the overall FPS. Unscientific, but a rough guide perhaps! Quote Link to post
jacknife 2,005 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I have the 16" on both my .22 and .17 as i prefer the shorter barrel as most of my shooting is done from a vehicle Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,798 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Be a rebel, have the varmint! "heevy is guuuddd.... heevy is reliii-abull" (in strong russian english) Edited March 24, 2016 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post
Elliott 436 Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Been looking at refilling my HMR slot today too now that Spring is round the corner. A nice CZ452 16" sporter barrel will do the trick for me. Not too badly priced secondhand either Quote Link to post
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