Working/Sporting Terrier

[shotup 9]

its horses for courses,,if your really serious about buying a digging pup then you would only buy a pup from a genuine guy that you know who his true or been strongly recommened by a close friend and you would have done your home work on the breeding of the pups and parents. if on the other hand you just want a pet that might chase a bunny squirell etc then a mass produced back yarder will do from the local rag. to hope to buy something decent from the exchange and mart of life is really like winning the lotto ... you wouldnt find an aston martin in the bargin basement. its all on the standard you require.

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

[dev 227]

bull shit................so if a lad buys or breeds a dogs for ratting / rabbits etc.............what the f**k is it doing playing?

If youre selling digging dogs......fair enough....dont pretend your pet does the job...........theres ALOT of little boys

who TALK about there digging dogs.........think this records stuck.

 

T

any dog will kill a rat or rabbit,its not WORK!!,fun yes ,sport yes,but not work.work for a terrier is earth work,staying tight with its quarry untill dug full stop!!

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

'Trim; I took the JR because I Hoped she'd at least have the instinct to be interested in rats - they being my business. Sadly, her only interest is in BIRDS! She spends her time dashing about, quartering every field like a dememnted spaniel on speed, scenting out birds and then 'chasing' them as they fly off high above her. FFS!

 

As said; Perfectly useless to me. But yet, perfectly harmless. She has the utmost respect for 'stock and the locals have now seen and recognise this. She's curled up, asleep, on my bed as I write this. There she'll end her days too, if I can't find anyone else who'd like her and take proper care of her.

 

" Gray Dog "? Had the makings of a little cracker, mate. Unfortunately, he swung a bit too far the other way and never did acclimatise to this enviroment.

 

Personally, I'd love a 'Sporting Terrier' about the place. Could certainly f*cking use one! But it's a bit like posting for an eight inch dick really, isn't it? Those with them are delighted and want them for their own. Who would want to knowingly pass one on? Otherwise, as has been said, it's a lottery. We get what we get and, some of us at least, do what we can with it.

 

Small Dog's of no use to me. But no harm to anyone either. Pet she'll have to be then. Cest la vie. No one Made me buy her and bring her home, after all.

[Guest oneredtrim]

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Edited January 13, 2008 by oneredtrim

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

She's a waste of space, mate. Believe me on this! Did I never post about the two times she went to and met something without wings?

 

I actually tend to murmer under my breath these days, when ever she ducks into some hedge or ditch; " Look out, Small Dog. It might f*ckin bite ye! "

 

Only rat I've ever seen in her mouth has been stiff. My Big Dog has actually demonstrated a far better nose for them than her. I poison them. He shows me where they are. She fetched the odd one out, once I uncovered it, much as she has been the bones of that goat for the last several months. I actually call her " Maggot " these days ~ because she feeds on dead things!

 

She's a waste of space, but she doesn't take up much and I have loads of the stuff. She also exercises my Orange Dog and it amuses me to see her being shown how to " Die like a fox ". So, like my tinnatus, I'll just live with her. There's nothing can be done to make it better.

 

No wrong in her at all. Not a bad bone in her body. She's just bloody useless.

 

Well; At least I enjoy farting in her ear most mornings!

[moley 115]

most dogs will kill a rat or a rabbit, but not all ,and there are standards that we all have as well as the digging boys , i have seen plenty of video of lads digging with upto 3 terriers to ground at once , are these working terriers cos they have to work in a gang ,just cos it don,t go to ground ,don,t make it a non-worker , i use my dogs for rats and rabbits , its my job , so they do a job of work , they will also go to ground and graft , but i tend to not let them these days , cos i cannot afford to have them off work for any period of time, they are still working terriers

[gogogadget 1]

that it chases rabbits when we go walking and it once killed next doors guinea pig!!!

 

Brilliant!

thats what we thought!! good hard working parents!!NOT!

[dev 227]

most dogs will kill a rat or a rabbit, but not all ,and there are standards that we all have as well as the digging boys , i have seen plenty of video of lads digging with upto 3 terriers to ground at once , are these working terriers cos they have to work in a gang ,just cos it don,t go to ground ,don,t make it a non-worker , i use my dogs for rats and rabbits , its my job , so they do a job of work , they will also go to ground and graft , but i tend to not let them these days , cos i cannot afford to have them off work for any period of time, they are still working terriers

terriers that only go to ground in twos or threes are not workers either,they are wankers!if your dogs have and will go to ground and work single handed and stay untill they are dug,then they ARE workers,even if you only use them for ratting/rabbitting

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

So if you have two very good ratting dogs and your into it big stile and getting among them regular, do you not breed from your dogs?

if not were do you buy in stock from?

digging dogs that lads dont rat with?

im not saying sell ratting dogs as earth dogs but whats wrong with breeding from brilliant ratting dogs?

its only the same as breeding from a good rabbiting lurcher, that could take the odd fox

you sell them as rabbiting dogs and not fox dogs yet no one moans at that

hope you can see were im coming from

[harddigging 42]

working terrier = below ground

sporting terrier = above ground

simple as!

[dev 227]

So if you have two very good ratting dogs and your into it big stile and getting among them regular, do you not breed from your dogs?

if not were do you buy in stock from?

digging dogs that lads dont rat with?

im not saying sell ratting dogs as earth dogs but whats wrong with breeding from brilliant ratting dogs?

its only the same as breeding from a good rabbiting lurcher, that could take the odd fox

you sell them as rabbiting dogs and not fox dogs yet no one moans at that

hope you can see were im coming from

mate im not saying that ! the post that started this thread was about a litter of these type of terriers being advertised as "working terriers" thats where the problem is! if they were advertised as" ratters" or "bushing dogs" then fine ,but not as workers,because soom poor sod is going to end up buying a pup ,rearing it ,giving it chance after chance,then after a couple of years,he has to admit failure and start again. Its all about being honest about what the capabilates of the dogs you are breeding are!

[Guest WILF]

Simo, your not wrong mate...........but your pal is saying that because she knows it will sell the pups........simple as.

She wont be the 1st and she certainly wont be the last.

Everyone will have different opinions on the subject, but you know what you know mate.

 

Now.........Irish terriers, thats what everyone should be buying

[Rabbit Hunter 6,613]

good post simoman...in my opinion terriers shouldnt be bred until they have proven themselves again and again and been worked hard...when i say work i mean underground working 'proper' quarry and being dug to...JMHO...

[bshadle 5]

Just to be curious... If you wanted a dog (of any breed) for a specific purpose, why would you buy it from someone you don't know based on the claims made in a newspaper or magazine advertisement? You wouldn't buy an automobile from a stranger without taking it for a test drive and having your mechanic check it out. You wouldn't buy a new pair of boots in a brand you've never used without trying them on. Why would you expect to be able to do anything different in dogs?

 

I have two russells. I bought them as pets. One of them turned out to have a little ability to hunt which was an unexpected bonus. (I hadn't hunted terriers before this.) But if I look specifically for a working terrier in the future, I'll get it from someone I know and trust or someone that they recommend as reliably producing working dogs. If I absolutely felt the need to get a dog from a stranger, it'd only be after visiting their kennel, evaluating the pup on my own, and seeing the pups parents work, spending some time in the field with them until I was satisfied.

 

Even at that, there'd still be no guarantee that the pup was going to develope into a worker. But if it didn't, at least I'd know I did all I could to get a worker.

 

Not meaning to stir shite, just throwing out something to think about. Caveat emptor goes a long way in making decisions. Just my opinion, your mileage may vary.