the goat 642 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I'd a young dog starting off very well I had let the dog off to run a river bank he ran the earth said no ran down the bank an enter the water the mate says to me you May go and get him my reply was will I fook the dog got out no thanks to me Dogs can be replaced you can't Itl take a while to replace the one I lost so I wouldn't mind taking a risk for it, as they risk there life's for us every time they're little arses dissappear into the sod. But....some people take these comments too seriously anyway. 4 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 This topic has changed route a little bit but as it's gone from backfilling (what the f**k is this backfilling anyway) and is now about personal safety it reminds me of the well known story about Mr Breay having the terrier trapped in the rocks and Frank Buck insisted he'd crawl in and get it out. Mr Breay insisted that Frank Buck tie a cloths line around him ,just in case. That's why I always bring a cloths line and a small child digging with me nowadays. Haven't had to use them yet but maybe someday. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Also, there's another way of looking at it. Every time your dig goes over 8 or 10 foot in a way you're already risking your life to get your terrier out. Look at the photo in Broadhursts book of the dig with Mr Edwards and Mr Mousley in it. 26 feet deep with the sides propped with scaffolding planks. Very risky. I'm with Goat, you do what it takes to get them home safe and sound. 2 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Every time I look at that picture I pray to God they slip 3 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Every time I look at that picture I pray to God they slip It's nearly 20 years since I dug with you DD but I had a funny feeling you might say something like that, LOL. 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 You two must have a geriatric get together sometime ,before its too late . 2 Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 It is a nightmare Neil down our way especially where we hunt as there are numerous roads, some quiet, some not so quiet and some really busy, so we are kept on our toes constantly. On the topic of horses there was an incident in Wales recently concerning a motorist and a horse drawn hearse unfortunately one of the two horses were killed as the driver overtook the funeral procession (unbelievable) but as I didn't witness the accident I can only presume the outcome. As a horse owner I can also sympathise with what happened to your daughter 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) It is a nightmare Neil down our way especially where we hunt as there are numerous roads, some quiet, some not so quiet and some really busy, so we are kept on our toes constantly. On the topic of horses there was an incident in Wales recently concerning a motorist and a horse drawn hearse unfortunately one of the two horses were killed as the driver overtook the funeral procession (unbelievable) but as I didn't witness the accident I can only presume the outcome. As a horse owner I can also sympathise with what happened to your daughter I seen the funeral incident on the news and BBC did a thing yesterday on horse related accidents. My daughter broke ribs that time but didn't stop riding. You wouldn't believe how small a road that the motor bike incident happened on. The hunt moved on and I waited back to clear things up and an old man in his 80s came out and said to me in a very posh accent "Neil, is the motor cyclist alright ?" "Yes Sir" I said. "That's a pity" he replied, LOL, I'll remember that 'till the day I die. Edited March 25, 2016 by neil cooney 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Also, there's another way of looking at it. Every time your dig goes over 8 or 10 foot in a way you're already risking your life to get your terrier out. Look at the photo in Broadhursts book of the dig with Mr Edwards and Mr Mousley in it. 26 feet deep with the sides propped with scaffolding planks. Very risky. I'm with Goat, you do what it takes to get them home safe and sound. Have you got a copy of pic to put up on here Neil? I've no way of putting it up on here , sorry. Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) i started this by telling fuckwits how to put mud in a hole, the egos on here have turned it into what they do Edited March 25, 2016 by Glyn..... 7 Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Lol well done the old man. Sorry Glyn got carried away, hope the fuc*kwit comment wasn't directed at me ??? 1 Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Remember must be 20 year ago now i had lads down from a NI digging club for the day.We had a few nice handy digs and towards the end of the day 1 of the lads asked if i could get him a handy dig for a pup he had[1st time out] and as i had checked a few earths the day before i took them to an earth that even though i had never dug it before as i found it while out shooting it looked a real easy place on a small whitethorn hedge with 3 entrances.They all agreed it looked easy and dog was collered up and away.He found and could be heard baying away clearly and was marked at 2ft but soon as a dig began the dog came out and did not want to re-enter.They then decided as it was the last dig of the day and there was something home they would enter an old semi-retired dog seeing as it was handy.Dog was collered up and away but when given time to find and settle he was no where near where the young dog had been,eventually marked about 30ft away at between 12-14 ft deep.We left him another while then started to dig and by now we were using torches.The farmers wife had been up to us earlier as she was feeding sheep down the other end of the field.We were down about 6-8 ft when we seen the tractor coming our way again and new it was the farmers wife but this time she had a flask of soup and sandwiches for us which were welcomed plus she parked the tractor in such a way that at least gave us light on top.We eventually broke through to the old dog with fox just in front and lifted both and dispatched the fox much to the delight of the woman.We then started to backfill and she told us to get out of the way,there was a front loader on the tractor with a bucket on and she had the dig filled in double quick,even tamped it down using the bucket,how times have changed. 6 Quote Link to post
foxbolter 447 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Regarding woods picture I've dug in those situations myself and sometimes stones can be overhanging but solid so you leave those ones there and just take the lose ones away because the solid ones hold the sides secure.you can't tell if it's secure until you try to move it with shovel or bar. I don't think whippet you know what your talking about judging how loose rocks are by a photo. Before long with people like you well have to go on health and safety courses to dig to a terrier are you a health and safety inspector 2 Quote Link to post
Haiddheliwr 1,911 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Plenty of room for you FD lol Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Remember must be 20 year ago now i had lads down from a NI digging club for the day.We had a few nice handy digs and towards the end of the day 1 of the lads asked if i could get him a handy dig for a pup he had[1st time out] and as i had checked a few earths the day before i took them to an earth that even though i had never dug it before as i found it while out shooting it looked a real easy place on a small whitethorn hedge with 3 entrances.They all agreed it looked easy and dog was collered up and away.He found and could be heard baying away clearly and was marked at 2ft but soon as a dig began the dog came out and did not want to re-enter.They then decided as it was the last dig of the day and there was something home they would enter an old semi-retired dog seeing as it was handy.Dog was collered up and away but when given time to find and settle he was no where near where the young dog had been,eventually marked about 30ft away at between 12-14 ft deep.We left him another while then started to dig and by now we were using torches.The farmers wife had been up to us earlier as she was feeding sheep down the other end of the field.We were down about 6-8 ft when we seen the tractor coming our way again and new it was the farmers wife but this time she had a flask of soup and sandwiches for us which were welcomed plus she parked the tractor in such a way that at least gave us light on top.We eventually broke through to the old dog with fox just in front and lifted both and dispatched the fox much to the delight of the woman.We then started to backfill and she told us to get out of the way,there was a front loader on the tractor with a bucket on and she had the dig filled in double quick,even tamped it down using the bucket,how times have changed. Remember must be 20 year ago now i had lads down from a NI digging club for the day.We had a few nice handy digs and towards the end of the day 1 of the lads asked if i could get him a handy dig for a pup he had[1st time out] and as i had checked a few earths the day before i took them to an earth that even though i had never dug it before as i found it while out shooting it looked a real easy place on a small whitethorn hedge with 3 entrances.They all agreed it looked easy and dog was collered up and away.He found and could be heard baying away clearly and was marked at 2ft but soon as a dig began the dog came out and did not want to re-enter.They then decided as it was the last dig of the day and there was something home they would enter an old semi-retired dog seeing as it was handy.Dog was collered up and away but when given time to find and settle he was no where near where the young dog had been,eventually marked about 30ft away at between 12-14 ft deep.We left him another while then started to dig and by now we were using torches.The farmers wife had been up to us earlier as she was feeding sheep down the other end of the field.We were down about 6-8 ft when we seen the tractor coming our way again and new it was the farmers wife but this time she had a flask of soup and sandwiches for us which were welcomed plus she parked the tractor in such a way that at least gave us light on top.We eventually broke through to the old dog with fox just in front and lifted both and dispatched the fox much to the delight of the woman.We then started to backfill and she told us to get out of the way,there was a front loader on the tractor with a bucket on and she had the dig filled in double quick,even tamped it down using the bucket,how times have changed. Do you remember the time Fatman we got a mark on one of my terriers at 13 foot in a severe storm. I had the young lad with me and you sent him to a local house for soup as he was very wet and cold. Then Ol' Pat Kelly sent home for extra lads and shovels and they quickly arrived. I checked the box again and we all started digging a 13' X 13' hole. We broke through to the terrier at 5 foot. The batteries in my collar were nearly flat. . That was some storm, and that's my excuse. 3 Quote Link to post
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