scottish lurcher 185 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I have a heavy blooded collie lurcher ,the collie comes from working sheep collie , now this is my first heavy blooded collie mix lurcher she now almost 9months and so head strong and defiant are all collie crosses like this when young Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Didn't u put a post up the other week like this? Anyway, they can be testing yes, especially if you clash. Find out what makes her tick, and don't loose your head while doing so. Lol harder said than done 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 All types of dog can be headstrong and defiant if we don't know how to channel their needs/instincts in a way they can understand. We have to be able to speak their language. By this, I mean that we train them, and be with them in a way they can respond to. For example, a dog with a lot of the hunter in it will quickly see us as a pretty meaningless part of their lives if all we do is try to force them to do what we want. Just because there is a lot of Collie in a dog doesn't mean that it will be a Crufts obedience contender. Working sheepdogs are wired to work from the day they are born, almost. If the dog sees no reward in what you are telling it to do, then it will eventually stick two fingers up at you. Have you tried tug play as part of your training? It has worked on every single dog I have used it on, terriers and all sorts of lurchers alike. When the dog sees you as a massively important reward, in your own self, then whatever you ask it to do will be easy. You have to be the carrot. Being with you must be like all the dog's Christmases have come at once. If all you ever do is shout at a dog, tell it to come (what for?) sit (what for?) walk on the lead (walking is boring to dogs. They'd sooner be trotting at a decent speed). Then expect a highly intelligent and driven dog to look at you as though you are a sad b**stard with nothing to offer. Have a look at the tug training stuff here: http://www.thehuntinglife.com/the-value-of-tug-games-with-puppies/ 6 Quote Link to post
tsteve9999 456 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I've a half x here that has been the opposite, really easy to train but even easier to upset. Any harsh word will have him cowering but treat him right and it's a doddle. If he's the norm for colliexs they certainly won't suit everyone but mines becoming a very handy rabbit dog 1 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I've a half x here that has been the opposite, really easy to train but even easier to upset. Any harsh word will have him cowering but treat him right and it's a doddle. If he's the norm for colliexs they certainly won't suit everyone but mines becoming a very handy rabbit doggot a collie x here much the same. Just have to have a tone in your voice and they know they done bad, but thrive on praise. I really like collie xs and sensitive nature compared to other xs as they twig on better what's right and wrong without over board measures. That's how Iv found my dog here at the moment anyway. Helps me create a good bond with a dog that's willing to listen and learn. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 (edited) I have a heavy blooded collie lurcher ,the collie comes from working sheep collie , now this is my first heavy blooded collie mix lurcher she now almost 9months and so head strong and defiant are all collie crosses like this when young Patience,a softly spoken voice,a little more patience and a strong hand,if you can balance all of that in its education you will end up with a useful mutt,id not own a lurcher without the Collie influence,id also not own an heavily saturated Collie lurcher.They need far more stimulation than the average lurcher,they soak up training and command,never over-educate one though as that will make them work on command only and ruin them,let them train themselves and you to get the best balance,interfere to nudge them towards your goals. Edited March 20, 2016 by morton 3 Quote Link to post
bob84 189 Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 I have a heavy blooded collie lurcher ,the collie comes from working sheep collie , now this is my first heavy blooded collie mix lurcher she now almost 9months and so head strong and defiant are all collie crosses like this when young where did ya get her from if you don't mind me asking . Quote Link to post
scottish lurcher 185 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 She certainly don't break easy still a young dog so stick with her a while longer , thanks for advise lads . Quote Link to post
Popular Post cocker 2,654 Posted March 21, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 a few of my old collie types (long gone collie greyhounds from 30 odd years back) me when i was young haha and the kid in the pics is my son i found the first cross was best for me brindle one was 3/4 greyhound 1/4 border black one was 3/4 greyhound 1/4 border white and blue merle was 3/4 greyhound 1/4 border blue merle was 1/2 border 1/2 greyhound ( that was the best one by far for me) rough one was a saluki bedlington x border collie greyhound 23 Quote Link to post
C.green 3,231 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 That bottom pics brilliant cocker fair play ? 1 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 thats my one of my sons with our dogs 30 years ago now, when you could walk home with a hare chucked over your shoulder proud as punch, and big your dog up to any old feller who was up and out early doors, them old fellers would be glad to hear of a good tale, not like now, they'd grass you up to the police haha 9 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,183 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Nice pics them cocker,,,that hare is as big as your lad,,,lovely memory's ... 1 Quote Link to post
marshman 7,757 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Good pics them cocker especially the one with the chrome trailer ? 1 Quote Link to post
lifelong cumbrian 1,826 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Great old photo's. 1 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Some nice pictures there. What made your mind up on the percentages? Atb 1 Quote Link to post
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