jaykay 2 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hi, ive been thinking about an alsation x grey but dont know much about them. ive heard good and bad reviews from a couple of people. Anyone have any experience with them? oh yeah, i was told that an alsation and a german shepard are different dogs, i always thought they were the same Quote Link to post
Ratreeper 441 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 same thing mate, there are a few threads already about this cross, mixed reviews so far i would say. Stick top what has proven itself in the field imho Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,589 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 far as i know their the same if you do a search a few threads will come up,i own a pup thats first x gsd/greyhound bred by a forum member.heres a pic. Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,169 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Hi, ive been thinking about an alsation x grey but dont know much about them. ive heard good and bad reviews from a couple of people. Anyone have any experience with them? oh yeah, i was told that an alsation and a german shepard are different dogs, i always thought they were the same I know of two of them their owners say there great I havent seen them catch any thing and always thought GSD were abit weak on the rear end. I wouldnt have one unless I was a copper trying to catch fast criminals. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Apparently German Shepherds stopped being called German Shepherds during the war as the UK was at war with Germany, Alsace being part of Germany at the time, and no one wanted to be seen to have German dogs! I've got one of the same litter as the black one already featured on this thread. I can't say she has really been tried and tested as she is only coming up to one year old this next month. What I can say is that she has a fantastic hunting instinct and nose: never stops working when we're out. Very biddable but the prey drive is very high so needs firm, though sensitive handling as she is very sensitive to being told off in any way, really wants to please: still a bit of a thug otherwise LOL. She's caught a few rabbits out day time bushing and though she is a bit large for what you'd call a rabbiting dog she is also very agile. From the people I've spoken to who have had them over the years I think they suit some people down to the ground, others would not get on with them. I think its like any sort of lurcher: we have the lurchers we like, regardless of whether they are the perfect dog for the job: if you really like a type of dog you will do well with it as it is the bond and the gelling of person and dog that make lurcher work so appealing to so many people. Let's face it, there's not many people who actually need a dog to catch XX rabbits in a night are there? Its being out there and doing it that is the most imortant thing for most folk. My Moggy dog........ (oh, and by the way, regarding weak rear ends: that will depend a lot on the GSD used: mine and the black one's dam is a flat backed, non droopy rear end bitch from working lines: not a roach backed, dodgy hipped show thing.) Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 love the way the ears stick up hows it bush Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 love the way the ears stick up hows it bush That's all she's done so far ( I take it you mean how does she work cover: what we call 'bushing' over here). I've seldom seen such agility in such a large dog: she reminds me of a giant fox as she goes through woods, fallen branches, fences etc: got that same easy moving lope, and a very supple body: she's looking for stuff all the time: just discovered squirrels! Each time a dead leaf floats down from the trees she's looking up there for them. Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 tell me do u belive that the pionted ears help for hearing because the dogs iv seen with pionted ears seem to quite frequently catch out of the light they seem to home in on the niose the animal makes rather then seeing it Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,589 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 the ears part is something i never considered ive had a few sarky comments about wind drag etc.mine shows a fascination with squirrels and will run to a tree base where one is sat a good 50+ yrds away.yet wont go after a rabbit sat next to a blackberry bush the same distance.which i find strange.shes also fascinated with cats which you find a few in the woods round here. i also find she behaves better out on her own as when i walked her with xbreed pup i got ,where it kept jumping at her face all the time she would try to put some distance between them. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 [quote yet wont go after a rabbit sat next to a blackberry bush the same distance.which i find strange. That just shows how intelligent they are: she knows the rabbit will disappear straight away into the bramble but she's hoping the squirrel will make a mistake and fall to the ground. Sometimes squirrels round here are in such a hurry to escape they misjudge their footing and land on the ground! Ooops! Yes, those big bat ears can home in on a sound just like a desert fox, or fennec. Even our own foxes hunt a lot by sound when they're mousing in long grass. I've noticed Moggy's ears swivelling independantly of each other when she's listening for rabbits in cover. Quote Link to post
mad-mouse 11 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Hi, ive been thinking about an alsation x grey but dont know much about them. ive heard good and bad reviews from a couple of people. Anyone have any experience with them? oh yeah, i was told that an alsation and a german shepard are different dogs, i always thought they were the same Get a Malinois x greyhound if you can get one. If you was going to use a guard breed this is it, more agile, smaller[65lb] better Hips, and very Game. Thats what i would use. mad-mouse Quote Link to post
Guest john2007oliver Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Apparently German Shepherds stopped being called German Shepherds during the war as the UK was at war with Germany, Alsace being part of Germany at the time, and no one wanted to be seen to have German dogs! Yeah thats what its was Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Not all have bad hips, like any working breed you have to sift through the dirt to find the gold Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 The Malinois I've seen in the UK have been VERY sharp, is how I'd put it kindly! Not saying that the right ones aren't the business, but they do seem a bit quicker to boil over than a good line of GSDs, though I agree, I'd like to have that lighter build. Quote Link to post
jaykay 2 Posted November 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 thanks for the tips. Some great looking dogs there lads. i think the brinble dog looks the part. Im fairly new to this game, does it make a difference whether the grey is the sire or the dam. i googled those malinois mad-mouse, lovely looking dog. first time ive heard of them. i wouldnt imagine id get my hands on one in this part of the woods Quote Link to post
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