Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 What running do you doRabbit and hare , with the odd fox (legal here in NI) on most types of ground ..and you run a reverse?No , I said id rather have a reverse 3/4 than a 3/4 grey ... But ill be trying a reverse 3/4 in the futurefair enough, but I'd say you'd be fairly disappointed with one running hareMaybe running a hare , but not hunting one upthats why I asked what running do u do, reverse would get left behindDepends how you run them .. And whether you put a net on the gate. 3 Link to post
Chid 6,645 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 What running do you doRabbit and hare , with the odd fox (legal here in NI) on most types of ground ..and you run a reverse?No , I said id rather have a reverse 3/4 than a 3/4 grey ... But ill be trying a reverse 3/4 in the futurefair enough, but I'd say you'd be fairly disappointed with one running hareMaybe running a hare , but not hunting one upthats why I asked what running do u do, reverse would get left behindDepends how you run them .. And whether you put a net on the gate.Thats a good idea Link to post
Chid 6,645 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 What running do you doRabbit and hare , with the odd fox (legal here in NI) on most types of ground ..and you run a reverse?No , I said id rather have a reverse 3/4 than a 3/4 grey ... But ill be trying a reverse 3/4 in the futurefair enough, but I'd say you'd be fairly disappointed with one running hareMaybe running a hare , but not hunting one upthats why I asked what running do u do, reverse would get left behindDepends how you run them ..have you seen a reverse running hares there? If so any chance of some pictures. Even hunting up, only way I'd say they would have them is right out the seat. U see full blown hare dogs getting walked up to 10 yards sometimes and that course goes 2+ minutes lol These Irish hares run backwards Link to post
runem 533 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five. so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. Link to post
LaddyLurcher 261 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Link to post
runem 533 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today. So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, Link to post
LaddyLurcher 261 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, fair comment.....the only thing that appeals to me about Hancock dogs is knowing exactly how its bred which to be honest is no priority over working prowess! Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today. So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem 1 Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 My dad had a 3/4 bitch I saw her in her lata days but my dad and lads who saw her run reckoned she was a good pot filler bitch my dads had to work the gun work in the day and on the night she did well at what ever she was put to shecwas bred from a goodtrack dog at the time to a good working collie greyhound bitch i remember she was a racey like a greyhound but thick set Link to post
king 11,984 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem I have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months. You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap? Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runemI have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months.You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. see the light, give over! I don't follow any crowd, o make my own decisions based on what Iv seen. You'll still be crabbing people's posts when my Hancock sapling will be starting out in field lol!! Link to post
king 11,984 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap?Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem I have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months. You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. see the light, give over! I don't follow any crowd, o make my own decisions based on what Iv seen. You'll still be crabbing people's posts when my Hancock sapling will be starting out in field lol!! Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap?Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem I have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months. You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. see the light, give over! I don't follow any crowd, o make my own decisions based on what Iv seen. You'll still be crabbing people's posts when my Hancock sapling will be starting out in field lol!! You are following the hancock crowd mate. The best thing hancock could of done in the mid 80s is added a bit of bull blood into them kennel bound mongrels. But sadly he didn't see the light only £££ signs. Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap?Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem I have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months. You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. see the light, give over! I don't follow any crowd, o make my own decisions based on what Iv seen. You'll still be crabbing people's posts when my Hancock sapling will be starting out in field lol!! Collie greyhounds of Hancock ,i would strongly advise to get one from somewhere else,ive have five from him over the years first one out of the original merle,last one out of boycey, first one ok did very well,then all dogs went down hill,i am not slagging Hancock but as someone who has experience over a long period of time with his dogs,i would not own another of him. However i would have another collie cross but from elsewhere. what was wrong with the dogs you had mate? If there were any problems and they went down hill should of contacted David.A fella o get on well with has had 14 hancocks his latest being 16 months old I think, all his dogs have worked to a good std and he was happy with them. He does ferreting hunting and lamping all do everything he wants. He did say that he wouldn't have beardy x off him or any of the naughty boys pups as the sires are narrow and shallow chested. That's why he sticks to border x as a rule. I personally think Hancock should breed the beardy border x like he does the border as there's too much variation in the "woody,delboy,boycey" litters. Interesting reply anyway. Nothing wrong with the dogs i had type, wise,good coats, structure,sound of limb and feet,clever quick to learn,................however the lack of prey drive decreased dramatically from number one to number five.so because of this reason i personally will not have another of Hancocks dogs,i would however have another collie type. why did you get 5 if the first ones went crap?Not all crap on a sliding scale from good to bad,till finally wouldnt have one,,,,would i have owned a english bulldog from years ago YES,..would i own one now NO,,,,,,,,,,thats hancock dogs of today.So if you want one get one and lets see if you still own it at 2 years of age,,thats me done had enough of talking Hancock,,,,, I am getting one, I don't think I asked anyones opinion on getting one in first place haha. all I asked was whos running 3/4 xs and now its turned into a hancock slagging thread yet again lol atb runem I have read all the excellent comments you have made about bull X mate.over the last few months. You need to see the light now and get 1 you know you want to but you've got your Hancock blinkers on at the moment. see the light, give over! I don't follow any crowd, o make my own decisions based on what Iv seen. You'll still be crabbing people's posts when my Hancock sapling will be starting out in field lol!! You are following the hancock crowd mate. The best thing hancock could of done in the mid 80s is added a bit of bull blood into them kennel bound mongrels. But sadly he didn't see the light only £££ signs. hancock crowd? I like collie xs and can't source any litters around, so next best thing is direct off him. all your looking to do is rubbish yet another post on about adding bull dribble it's boring as f**k, you got no interest in collie xs so don't get involved. I'd even offer to take you out to my permissions with rabbit hare deer fox and other bits on, but I really can't be bothered with people like u. I got nothing against bull xs, just don't think they make all rounders like people make out, obviously some will but you be better off with deer x , saluki x , collie x etc to get a all rounder and that's my mindset. No amount of shit you spout will change my mind. You can't find a rabbit let alone f**k all else, you stick to your forestry commission ground somewhere in the valleys lol might find a few burnt out cars and camping spots lol Link to post
nothernlite 18,090 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Good luck with your choice of pup Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted March 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Good luck with your choice of pupcheers NL, lol it'll have the chance to show what it can do. Only asked does anyone run one, get all this shit. Lol 1 Link to post
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