What A Waste Of Hares !!!

[Flynn 314]

It is my opinion ( please note MY ) that the ban has led to more poaching then ever, there are a certain few who have chosen to carry on regardless, they are taking stupid fines , ie~ Motor offences etc, but these die hards are falling foul of those that wont be touched by the justice sytstem as the Law enforcers wont enter their camps!, these vagabonds should be ousted as they are the lowest of the low... they are the ones driving over farmers land, using threatning behaviour etc. BUT they appear to be unstopable quite happy are they to dump thier dogs, or even run them over, leaving the dog, half dead, that in turn leads to the die hards being tard with the same brush.

Hence the farmer is having hares shot left right and centre, no fraction of fieldsports is to blame, except the scum who commit these crimes.

For the die hards, just one note, dont post on social media, when and where You are, Vote OK are the ones to throw Your weight behind, I and the AWL urge You to do so.

[marshman 7,757]

Hmm I wonder who you could possibly mean lol what is vote OK ?

[low plains drifter 10,493]

Excellent way to get the ban overturned.....by ridiculing another form. Hmmmm

More sickening than ridiculous Lab, to afford an animal like the hare no sportsmanship, and slaughter them like some type of livestock goes against the idea of working dogs with survival of the fittest, and an improvement of the species as a factor

[paulsmithy83 567]

It is my opinion ( please note MY ) that the ban has led to more poaching then ever, there are a certain few who have chosen to carry on regardless, they are taking stupid fines , ie~ Motor offences etc, but these die hards are falling foul of those that wont be touched by the justice sytstem as the Law enforcers wont enter their camps!, these vagabonds should be ousted as they are the lowest of the low... they are the ones driving over farmers land, using threatning behaviour etc. BUT they appear to be unstopable quite happy are they to dump thier dogs, or even run them over, leaving the dog, half dead, that in turn leads to the die hards being tard with the same brush.

Hence the farmer is having hares shot left right and centre, no fraction of fieldsports is to blame, except the scum who commit these crimes.

For the die hards, just one note, dont post on social media, when and where You are, Vote OK are the ones to throw Your weight behind, I and the AWL urge You to do so.

are you mad travellers always get harsher side of law. any excuse for police to enter sites and they will. and courts ALWAYS give higher sentences to travellers. i know alot of sites that earn honest livings. good and bad in all walks of life but to blame the whole ban situation on travellers bit below the belt. just like how dog men shouldnt all be tarred travellers shouldnt either.

[desertbred 5,490]

What is Country Alliance take on these organised hare shoots ?, that occur all round the country where numbers of hares are to be found. Its ok pointing fingers at certain sections of the community even deserved or not, it does not put this hare drive travesty right does it? Because a few lads poach, The excuse for slaughter of thousands of hares over a couple of days " to keep a few of the land ", The Hunting with dogs legislation to protect mammals and stop cruelty in the minds of its supporters is a total failure yet the same legislation supports condones and permits this butchery.

Edited March 4, 2016 by desertbred

[Flynn 314]

 

It is my opinion ( please note MY ) that the ban has led to more poaching then ever, there are a certain few who have chosen to carry on regardless, they are taking stupid fines , ie~ Motor offences etc, but these die hards are falling foul of those that wont be touched by the justice sytstem as the Law enforcers wont enter their camps!, these vagabonds should be ousted as they are the lowest of the low... they are the ones driving over farmers land, using threatning behaviour etc. BUT they appear to be unstopable quite happy are they to dump thier dogs, or even run them over, leaving the dog, half dead, that in turn leads to the die hards being tard with the same brush.

Hence the farmer is having hares shot left right and centre, no fraction of fieldsports is to blame, except the scum who commit these crimes.

For the die hards, just one note, dont post on social media, when and where You are, Vote OK are the ones to throw Your weight behind, I and the AWL urge You to do so.

are you mad travellers always get harsher side of law. any excuse for police to enter sites and they will. and courts ALWAYS give higher sentences to travellers. i know alot of sites that earn honest livings. good and bad in all walks of life but to blame the whole ban situation on travellers bit below the belt. just like how dog men shouldnt all be tarred travellers shouldnt either.

 

If You care to re read i chose my word carefully. There are many a TRUE Romany who are honest as the day is long.

[Flynn 314]

What is Country Alliance take on these organised hare shoots ?, that occur all round the country where numbers of hares are to be found. Its ok pointing fingers at certain sections of the community even deserved or not, it does not put this hare drive travesty right does it? Because a few lads poach, The excuse for slaughter of thousands of hares over a couple of days " to keep a few of the land ", The Hunting with dogs legislation to protect mammals and stop cruelty in the minds of its supporters is a total failure yet the same legislation supports condones and permits this butchery.

what are You doing about it?

[bird 9,898]

I know it's controversial but for me that type of wholesale slaughter should be outlawed .

 

Terrible waste and a lot would not of been clean kills and numbers will have been injured to crawl away to die slowly in agony.

 

It's just not on in my book .

never been on a hare drive, but i have been on a fox drive few times, and old charlie dont hang about in them drives . now few times when driving the foxes out of woods etc ive seen few hares out there just standing/sitting looking whats going on, and looked to me very easy targets to kill, (no sport what so ever ) its just slaughter , i dont mind controlling any animal as long as it done fair, why wipe them out, thats not controlling them .!!

[desertbred 5,490]

 

What is Country Alliance take on these organised hare shoots ?, that occur all round the country where numbers of hares are to be found. Its ok pointing fingers at certain sections of the community even deserved or not, it does not put this hare drive travesty right does it? Because a few lads poach, The excuse for slaughter of thousands of hares over a couple of days " to keep a few of the land ", The Hunting with dogs legislation to protect mammals and stop cruelty in the minds of its supporters is a total failure yet the same legislation supports condones and permits this butchery.

what are You doing abou

i am carrying on running as I always have, and supporting and encouraging those who are into the sport whether Gorgers, Travellers, Romany or folk in general it does not matter to me, nor does it if a lad has permission or not I support anybodies right to hunt..I dont avoid a perfectly reasonable Question

. "What is the position of C/A and Mr Bonner on the hare shoots we know his position o fox hunting and ferreting as you like to publish but what is the position of AWL and C/A on the above topic..

[Rake aboot 4,935]

Been discussed to death

 

Hare shoot were killing thousands way before any ban.

 

They aren`t shot because of the ban

They aren`t shot to keep poachers away

They are shot because the estate need to control numbers.

 

Some of these places shoot that many every year or two. A few caught with lurchers wouldn`t even dent that number.

 

And complaining about someone elses sport because ours is banned doesn`t sit well, and doesn`t say much about the complainers.

 

 

 

Give me dogs any day mind. Never took a gun on a hare shoot and never will.

[desertbred 5,490]

Been discussed to death

 

Hare shoot were killing thousands way before any ban.

 

They aren`t shot because of the ban

They aren`t shot to keep poachers away

They are shot because the estate need to control numbers.

 

Some of these places shoot that many every year or two. A few caught with lurchers wouldn`t even dent that number.

 

And complaining about someone elses sport because ours is banned doesn`t sit well, and doesn`t say much about the complainers.

 

 

 

Give me dogs any day mind. Never took a gun on a hare shoot and never will.

Some one elses sport? where is the sport blasting with a 12 bore? The subject is about hares and the different points of view as to why shoots take place, Shot to control numbers in which areas ? most farmers readily admit its to keep runners of the land , the police say that running encourages other types of rural crime and attracts , drug dealers, thieves gamblers to rural areas. Lac s and Treehuggers are very vocal on hunting with dogs yet reasonably quiet on shoots , could it be a money and status thing it certainly isnt only to control numbers its far more clandestine than that.as the Hunting with dogs act and proposed amendments seem to emphasise.

Edited March 4, 2016 by desertbred

[Lab 10,979]

 

Excellent way to get the ban overturned.....by ridiculing another form. Hmmmm

More sickening than ridiculous Lab, to afford an animal like the hare no sportsmanship, and slaughter them like some type of livestock goes against the idea of working dogs with survival of the fittest, and an improvement of the species as a factor

Everyone is entitled to there opinion.....I can see if your born and bred a running dog man or your just a fan of that sport then you will hate to see hares shot.

I'd like to think I'm happy to accept all forms of country pursuits from running dogs through to shooting.

I refuse to jump on the "it's too easy to shoot them" bandwagon. It's also very easy to sit in a high chair and shoot deer, or snare or trap vermin.....all very easy but necessary.

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[hily 379]

I have culled hare with a rifle and all have gone into the food chain the reason was the farmer wanted them of the land as he thinks they compete with his sheep for food .So not for sport or to keep the dog men away.My farther in law worked on farms in the 60's and 70's when hunting with dogs was legal the annual hare shoot took place for only one reason and that was to control hare numbers.

[Giro 2,648]

 

 

Been discussed to death

 

Hare shoot were killing thousands way before any ban.

 

They aren`t shot because of the ban

They aren`t shot to keep poachers away

They are shot because the estate need to control numbers.

 

Some of these places shoot that many every year or two. A few caught with lurchers wouldn`t even dent that number.

 

And complaining about someone elses sport because ours is banned doesn`t sit well, and doesn`t say much about the complainers.

 

 

 

Give me dogs any day mind. Never took a gun on a hare shoot and never will.

Some one elses sport? where is the sport blasting with a 12 bore? The subject is about hares and the different points of view as to why shoots take place, Shot to control numbers in which areas ? most farmers readily admit its to keep runners of the land , the police say that running encourages other types of rural crime and attracts , drug dealers, thieves gamblers to rural areas. Lac s and Treehuggers are very vocal on hunting with dogs yet reasonably quiet on shoots , could it be a money and status thing it certainly isnt only to control numbers its far more clandestine than that.as the Hunting with dogs act and proposed amendments seem to emphasise.

Antis are just anti and you tube is awash with vids of them disturbing grouse shoots , hare drives along with hunting with hounds..

 

The AWL support lawful lurcher work and have no objections to any legal feildsports be it shooting, trapping or any form of lawful dog work.

 

Your asking someone about someone's else opinion..

 

Why don't you contact the CA Dessert bread ??

 

Are you a member of the CA ??

Edited March 4, 2016 by Giro

[JAE B 549]

 

 

 

Been discussed to death

 

Hare shoot were killing thousands way before any ban.

 

They aren`t shot because of the ban

They aren`t shot to keep poachers away

They are shot because the estate need to control numbers.

 

Some of these places shoot that many every year or two. A few caught with lurchers wouldn`t even dent that number.

 

And complaining about someone elses sport because ours is banned doesn`t sit well, and doesn`t say much about the complainers.

 

 

 

Give me dogs any day mind. Never took a gun on a hare shoot and never will.

Some one elses sport? where is the sport blasting with a 12 bore? The subject is about hares and the different points of view as to why shoots take place, Shot to control numbers in which areas ? most farmers readily admit its to keep runners of the land , the police say that running encourages other types of rural crime and attracts , drug dealers, thieves gamblers to rural areas. Lac s and Treehuggers are very vocal on hunting with dogs yet reasonably quiet on shoots , could it be a money and status thing it certainly isnt only to control numbers its far more clandestine than that.as the Hunting with dogs act and proposed amendments seem to emphasise.

Antis are just anti and you tube is awash with vids of them disturbing grouse shoots , hare drives along with hunting with hounds..

 

The AWL support lawful lurcher work and have no objections to any legal feildsports be it shooting, trapping or any form of lawful dog work.

 

Your asking someone about someone's else opinion..

 

Why don't you contact the CA Dessert bread ??

 

Are you a member of the CA ??

hares drives are just a slaughter no sport in it at all as there's usually 4 or more guns firing at one hare know one knows who's hitting or missing weres the sport in that shame really IMO