gnasher16 30,217 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? I think that would be a bit boring tbh and in f1 its always been about pushing design boundaries. What would make it better I think would be to open all the old tracks up I.e nurburgring, old spa track parabollica at monza etc and lift restrictions on cars, yes drivers would get killed but that should be why there so well paid, and its what made f1 so poular I the first place 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? Yes mate I've often thought this also but you've got to remember F1 is in fact a team sport. The drivers are just like the footballers on the pitch its the team which always must come first, hence the reason for team orders. Strange though as I couldn't give a damn about which team wins the championship its always the driver that holds the interest for me. Id love to see Jenson Button bow out on a high at the end of this season as I think its his last, also I really like how Raikkonen is so anti media its brilliant trying to watch a presenter trying to interview him. Add to that drivers taking corners up to 200mph and for some reason it just floats my boat . Nearly as much as watching the Owls stick one up Warnocks A**se tomorrow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? yes drivers would get killed but that should be why there so well paid, and its what made f1 so poular I the first place Not sure I agree with that last statement old chap...From the start of the F1 journey in 1950 unto the mid 70's nearly every year one or two drivers were killed in the season, I think the sport has feasted on enough young mens lives do you? I can't think of any other sport that made this kind of sacrifice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Yes mate I've often thought this also but you've got to remember F1 is in fact a team sport. The drivers are just like the footballers on the pitch its the team which always must come first, hence the reason for team orders. Strange though as I couldn't give a damn about which team wins the championship its always the driver that holds the interest for me. Id love to see Jenson Button bow out on a high at the end of this season as I think its his last, also I really like how Raikkonen is so anti media its brilliant trying to watch a presenter trying to interview him. Add to that drivers taking corners up to 200mph and for some reason it just floats my boat . Nearly as much as watching the Owls stick one up Warnocks A**se tomorrow Its a fair point i suppose an individual sport we tend to see 1 face in victory and forget everything thats behind it........good point .....i often wonder if these drivers must crave the idea of a simple race of skill and ability without all the science and technology that go,s with Formula 1.......i have visions of them finishing a race and then all having it out on the old scalextric As regards the footie any side who batters that Warnock floats my boat ! Edited March 4, 2016 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Could anything be duller than F1 ? Paint dry etc etc. I could guarantee that if you went to a race you wouldn't think that, well not when they had the V8's. The noise was something else, made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? yes drivers would get killed but that should be why there so well paid, and its what made f1 so poular I the first place Not sure I agree with that last statement old chap...From the start of the F1 journey in 1950 unto the mid 70's nearly every year one or two drivers were killed in the season, I think the sport has feasted on enough young mens lives do you? I can't think of any other sport that made this kind of sacrifice. I get what your saying but if they hadnt no-one would care about f1 look at rallying its the same, no restrictions people dieing it was massive when yhey added restrictions and people stopped dieing no-one cared anymore. With modern tech they could design an almost indestructable cockpit, everyone could use same cockpit but design what yhey want around it. F1 drivers were like rockstars cos they lived fast and died young its what allows lewis hamilton to get paid so much no-ones holding a gun ti there head. Stirling moss says pretty much the same an he very nearly died himself 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I find no interest in the death of someone for a sport be that horse eventing, boxing, rallying or F1. When Jules Bianchi slammed into the crane in Suzuka which ultimately took his life I was horrified, that was the first death the sport has had since Senna. I get how some may enjoy the big crashes and deaths but it's not for me. I enjoy watching a guy drive a car which is just on the edge of losing control yet having the talent to still drive it through the tunnel in Monaco at nearly 200mph. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I find no interest in the death of someone for a sport be that horse eventing, boxing, rallying or F1. When Jules Bianchi slammed into the crane in Suzuka which ultimately took his life I was horrified, that was the first death the sport has had since Senna. I get how some may enjoy the big crashes and deaths but it's not for me. I enjoy watching a guy drive a car which is just on the edge of losing control yet having the talent to still drive it through the tunnel in Monaco at nearly 200mph. But don't you agree that it's the element of danger that leaves us in awe at the drivers mastery? Ferrari have been testing a hideous safety measure in Barcelona, the "Halo" is one of the most disgusting contraption's I've ever seen in motorsport. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Rake I know a few people that have the same opinion pal and i admit its not as exciting for overtakes like the GP but i find the whole set up and strategy fascinating and you can't take it away that those boys can drive. When Hamilton and Rosberg fell out last season it was like the old Senna Prost days I dont know much about Formula 1 i just have a fascination with fast cars......but do you not think a true test of driving skill that would create a far more interesting race would be for every car to be identical in terms of both performance and the way they are set up or is that simplifying it too much ?......ok i know the money generated from different teams creates different budgets etc but in terms of pure race driving i would imagine even go karting is probably more competetive.....no ? But if a spec series was introduced then that possibly wouldn't paint the full picture of who's the best driver. What if the car suits a certain driver more than his teammate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDHUNTING 1,817 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) What I'm trying to say is the attraction WAS watching the fastest cars humans were capable of making being driven by blokes who lived life on the edge, now we've got cars designed by safety committes being driven by robotic drivers who spend as much time programming computers on the track as they do racing. I don't want to see people die either, and bianchi didn't die racing he was behind the safety car Also modern tracks are boring as hell, the missus brother works in f1 and the new tracks, Bahrain etc the main focus of the design was maximum exposure for advertising! Edited March 4, 2016 by JDHUNTING 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Alonso and Hamilton two of the best drivers in the sport both agree F1 is on it's last legs. The people in charge are so out of touch it's unreal. Their solutions are comical to say the least. My proposals to make it great again are. 1. At least 1000bhp. 2. Open engine category. 3. No mandatory tyre change. 4. Ground effects to enable closer racing. 5. Ban pit to car radio for everything except for pit stops and emergencies. 6. Points for qualifying. 7. More gravel traps and less run off. 8. Cheaper ticket prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Use to see Nigel Mansell occasionally when he lived here , he seemed to have a good career out of F1 , though personally I've never been interested in it but it does take some bottle / ability . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've always been a fan of the sport but after driving a quick Go Kart i became a massive fanatic. The concentration and skill set required must be immense to drive those machine. The speed of the cars at Silverstone in 2010 when i went to the GP was unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,217 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) But if a spec series was introduced then that possibly wouldn't paint the full picture of who's the best driver. What if the car suits a certain driver more than his teammate? Should a really good driver not be able to adapt though ?.......could a top driver get away with saying im no good in the wet so i,ll just race on slicks thanks......be it conditions or car set up surely the best drivers adapt... no ?.......maybe im talking bollocks i dont know enough to have a strong opinion so you might be right. Edited March 4, 2016 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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