Katie Hopkins

[lukey 1,621]

 

 

When my lad was 17 he started dating his girlfriend. she is the same age as him , after meeting her I found her to be very a very young 17 year oId.... I pulled him to one side & told him that if I thought he had pressured her into doing anything she wasn't ready for emotionally I would have his bollocks on a platter .

 

Anyone who thinks a child of 15 is emotionally mature enough to get into a sexual relationship with a man nearly double her age is as sick as the dirty b*****d who groomed this kid

 

The problem with age is that it is simply a number!

 

As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age!

 

The specifics of this particular case is something most here only know about through the media.

 

Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature?

 

Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine.

 

Life just isn't that black and white!

 

Your putting your point across but at the same time your trying to defend the footballer? The court found him guilty of grooming! f***ing GROOMING! Why the f**k can anyone try and play this offender down as it not being that bad???????

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

When my lad was 17 he started dating his girlfriend. she is the same age as him , after meeting her I found her to be very a very young 17 year oId.... I pulled him to one side & told him that if I thought he had pressured her into doing anything she wasn't ready for emotionally I would have his bollocks on a platter .

 

Anyone who thinks a child of 15 is emotionally mature enough to get into a sexual relationship with a man nearly double her age is as sick as the dirty b*****d who groomed this kid

 

 

The problem with age is that it is simply a number!

 

As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age!

 

The specifics of this particular case is something most here only know about through the media.

 

Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature?

 

Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine.

 

Life just isn't that black and white!

 

 

 

He would still be a sick c**t that wants his balls removed a day later

 

 

Indeed he could, which goes right back to my comment about age alone simply being a number. Many children are born to girls under 16 every year in this country, are all the men involved in prison? In addition there are many countries that allow marriage before 16.

 

We have decided our Legal moral stance is 16, much of the world hasn't.

 

I am not making any suggestion that is right or wrong, just looking at the bigger picture!

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

When my lad was 17 he started dating his girlfriend. she is the same age as him , after meeting her I found her to be very a very young 17 year oId.... I pulled him to one side & told him that if I thought he had pressured her into doing anything she wasn't ready for emotionally I would have his bollocks on a platter .

 

Anyone who thinks a child of 15 is emotionally mature enough to get into a sexual relationship with a man nearly double her age is as sick as the dirty b*****d who groomed this kid

 

The problem with age is that it is simply a number!

 

As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age!

 

The specifics of this particular case is something most here only know about through the media.

 

Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature?

 

Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine.

 

Life just isn't that black and white!

 

Your putting your point across but at the same time your trying to defend the footballer? The court found him guilty of grooming! f***ing GROOMING! Why the f**k can anyone try and play this offender down as it not being that bad???????

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

Edited March 19, 2016 by Deker

[Welsh_red 4,711]

I wonder if people's views on this would be different if he was a Lardy ropey looking 28 year old? Just a thought . If it wasn't "Adam Johnson" the footballer we've all watched and somebody normal would people feel the same

[stevo79 569]

 

 

 

When my lad was 17 he started dating his girlfriend. she is the same age as him , after meeting her I found her to be very a very young 17 year oId.... I pulled him to one side & told him that if I thought he had pressured her into doing anything she wasn't ready for emotionally I would have his bollocks on a platter .

 

Anyone who thinks a child of 15 is emotionally mature enough to get into a sexual relationship with a man nearly double her age is as sick as the dirty b*****d who groomed this kid

 

The problem with age is that it is simply a number!

 

As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age!

 

The specifics of this particular case is something most here only know about through the media.

 

Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature?

 

Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine.

 

Life just isn't that black and white!

 

Your putting your point across but at the same time your trying to defend the footballer? The court found him guilty of grooming! f***ing GROOMING! Why the f**k can anyone try and play this offender down as it not being that bad???????

Totally agree!! And he admitted groming her.

[tb25 4,627]

I don't think eny woman under 30 has eny real sence..law states 16... Myself thinks it should be 18..

[forest of dean redneck 11,707]

I don't think eny woman has eny real sence..law states 16... Myself thinks it should be 18..

[gnasher16 30,390]

 

When my lad was 17 he started dating his girlfriend. she is the same age as him , after meeting her I found her to be very a very young 17 year oId.... I pulled him to one side & told him that if I thought he had pressured her into doing anything she wasn't ready for emotionally I would have his bollocks on a platter .

 

Anyone who thinks a child of 15 is emotionally mature enough to get into a sexual relationship with a man nearly double her age is as sick as the dirty b*****d who groomed this kid

 

 

The problem with age is that it is simply a number!

 

As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age!

 

The specifics of this particular case is something most here only know about through the media.

 

Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature?

 

Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine.

 

Life just isn't that black and white!

 

 

Im just curious to this way of thinking.........so how exactly should this law work then ? or shouldnt there be a law.....if she,s up for it rump her sort of thing ?.....i mean the driving limit is what 17 ?...... should a 16 year old boy be able to drive because he is nearly 17 ?......and should he be let off if he doesnt happen to kill anyone ?.......none of us are perfect we,ve all broken a law or two but there has to be laws and we have to take it on the chin if we choose to break them its not a difficult decision you just have to know what the law is......and he did.

Edited March 19, 2016 by gnasher16

[pesky1972 5,334]

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

 

I wonder if people's views on this would be different if he was a Lardy ropey looking 28 year old? Just a thought . If it wasn't "Adam Johnson" the footballer we've all watched and somebody normal would people feel the same

The fact that he's a well known footballer makes it of public interest and ensures significant media coverage. It doesn't make the crime any different in my view.

 

Still can't fathom why people are trying to play this down.

 

A question to anyone who thinks what Johnson done was okay if the girl was 'up for it'..., or if she happened to have just turned sixteen. If a 27 year old man turned up at the door to take your 15 or 16 year old daughter out, or away for the weekend, would you not think it was wrong?

[lukey 1,621]

 

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

I wonder if people's views on this would be different if he was a Lardy ropey looking 28 year old? Just a thought . If it wasn't "Adam Johnson" the footballer we've all watched and somebody normal would people feel the same

The fact that he's a well known footballer makes it of public interest and ensures significant media coverage. It doesn't make the crime any different in my view.

 

Still can't fathom why people are trying to play this down.

 

A question to anyone who thinks what Johnson done was okay if the girl was 'up for it'..., or if she happened to have just turned sixteen. If a 27 year old man turned up at the door to take your 15 or 16 year old daughter out, or away for the weekend, would you not think it was wrong?

More chance they'd be the 27yo at the door!

[pesky1972 5,334]

 

 

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

I wonder if people's views on this would be different if he was a Lardy ropey looking 28 year old? Just a thought . If it wasn't "Adam Johnson" the footballer we've all watched and somebody normal would people feel the same

The fact that he's a well known footballer makes it of public interest and ensures significant media coverage. It doesn't make the crime any different in my view.

 

Still can't fathom why people are trying to play this down.

 

A question to anyone who thinks what Johnson done was okay if the girl was 'up for it'..., or if she happened to have just turned sixteen. If a 27 year old man turned up at the door to take your 15 or 16 year old daughter out, or away for the weekend, would you not think it was wrong?

More chance they'd be the 27yo at the door!

Bang on??

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

 

I wonder if people's views on this would be different if he was a Lardy ropey looking 28 year old? Just a thought . If it wasn't "Adam Johnson" the footballer we've all watched and somebody normal would people feel the same

The fact that he's a well known footballer makes it of public interest and ensures significant media coverage. It doesn't make the crime any different in my view.

 

Still can't fathom why people are trying to play this down.

 

A question to anyone who thinks what Johnson done was okay if the girl was 'up for it'..., or if she happened to have just turned sixteen. If a 27 year old man turned up at the door to take your 15 or 16 year old daughter out, or away for the weekend, would you not think it was wrong?

 

 

:laugh:

 

Like I said, perhaps you should read what I said, particularly the bit you quoted and responded to. Just what has your response got to do with my comment?

Edited March 20, 2016 by Deker

[pesky1972 5,334]

 

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

 

 

:laugh:

 

Like I said, perhaps you should read what I said, particularly the bit you quoted and responded to. Just what has your response got to do with my comment?

 

 

I quoted you as saying that some had taken an "incredibly moral stance". Maybe you can clarify what was posted & who you meant?

 

I've read your previous posts also and quote; "The problem with age is that it is simply a number! As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age! Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature? Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine. Life just isn't that black and white"!

You didn't answer my question yet...., do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay?

If not, why the fcuk come on a public forum arguing the toss about the legality of it

[Deker 3,478]

 

 

 

 

I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

I am simply making the point that some here have taken an incredibly moral stance on the basis of a what may simply be a day!

 

 

I don't think that anyone is taking an 'incredibly moral stance' in calling Johnson for what he is, or for questioning some of the posts which have attempted to play down or even excuse what he did. Do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay..., because it certainly comes across as though you do?

 

 

:laugh:

 

Like I said, perhaps you should read what I said, particularly the bit you quoted and responded to. Just what has your response got to do with my comment?

 

 

I quoted you as saying that some had taken an "incredibly moral stance". Maybe you can clarify what was posted & who you meant?

 

I've read your previous posts also and quote; "The problem with age is that it is simply a number! As you point out a 17 year old was apparently not very mature, but on the reverse a 15 year old may be VERY mature for their age! Whatever anyone feels about the footballer, we would not be debating this if she had been a little older, so what makes it fine at 16 when you yourself say 17 was immature? Some seem to think at 15years 364 days he is a disgusting ****** who should have his balls removed, whilst a day later its fine. Life just isn't that black and white"!

You didn't answer my question yet...., do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay?

If not, why the fcuk come on a public forum arguing the toss about the legality of it

 

 

Flippen ek, I've made it very clear I'm not defending the footballer, read my posts and the posts they were in response too. Which part of this do you have a problem understanding...... I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

If a 27 year old bloke (footballer or not) and a 16 year old girl does not fit your moral compass then tuff, the law says its fine, argue with the Government, not me!

Edited March 20, 2016 by Deker

[pesky1972 5,334]

 

 

You didn't answer my question yet...., do you think a 27 year old father trying to get a fifteen year old, or even a sixteen year old girl into bed is okay?

If not, why the fcuk come on a public forum arguing the toss about the legality of it

 

 

Flippen ek, I've made it very clear I'm not defending the footballer, read my posts and the posts they were in response too. Which part of this do you have a problem understanding...... I am not for one second defending the footballer, please read my comments again, and I am not talking about the case specifically, I am responding to some other general comments that have no specific bearing on the actual case.

 

If a 27 year old bloke (footballer or not) and a 16 year old girl does not fit your moral compass then tuff, the law says its fine, argue with the Government, not me!

 

 

That'll be a yes then.