rob284 1,682 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Many a place a terrier was entered a collar was as useful as a chocolate ashtray,the olde lads worked these spots for many generations,the majority of modern terrierfolk pass them by,losing a terrier is something olde and new often have in common. 1 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Many a place a terrier was entered a collar was as useful as a chocolate ashtray,the olde lads worked these spots for many generations,the majority of modern terrierfolk pass them by,losing a terrier is something olde and new often have in common.a collar is always a benefit and never a hindrance. Many deads cant be prevented by reducing the time taken to find a dog, or even having the ability to find it at all, as there are many places that you cant find without a collar. Quote Link to post
Farmhand66 63 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Terriers are still lost..........alot Quote Link to post
Farmhand66 63 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Maybe be mate. But these knobheads tended to have a real knowlege of what they entering the dog into. Through maybe trail an error. Season after season. When foxes where to ground it harsh frosty winters. Id say them old knobheads had good knowledge of there earths. As said before a crafted art form. For each man on whatever land he walks. Knowing your land I know what era id rather of worked a dog...and it is not the present Edited March 6, 2016 by Farmhand66 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Many a place a terrier was entered a collar was as useful as a chocolate ashtray,the olde lads worked these spots for many generations,the majority of modern terrierfolk pass them by,losing a terrier is something olde and new often have in common.a collar is always a benefit and never a hindrance. Many deads cant be prevented by reducing the time taken to find a dog, or even having the ability to find it at all, as there are many places that you cant find without a collar. A collar is the salvation of average terriers and folk that work them,its also the main implement in any honest working kennel now,any terrier man without one is a nugget,yet they are futile in many a place a terrier needs to enter,the facts are that the majority of our elders still worked these places many find to be unworkable now. 3 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) I once had a mark of 23.4 Metres, collar or not she was on her own ! Edited March 6, 2016 by dillydog 4 Quote Link to post
Farmhand66 63 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I once had a mark of 23.4 Metres, collar or not she was on her own ! If you dont mind me asking. Did you get her back.? Thanks Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I once had a mark of 23.4 Metres, collar or not she was on her own ! 24.5 with a young Lakey,a week later we had her in a cat trap set in the only entrance. 3 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground.Maybe be mate. But these knobheads tended to have a real knowlege of what they entering the dog into. Through maybe trail an error. Season after season. When foxes where to ground it harsh frosty winters. Id say them old knobheads had good knowledge of there earths. As said before a crafted art form. For each man on whatever land he walks. Knowing your land I know what era id rather of worked a dog...and it is not the present why would a collar make you less knowledgeable of the earths you work, a collar lets you follow the tubes and know the exact depth. 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Being perfectly honest and perhaps my dogs are poorer for it but if a place looks dodgey i aint putting a dog in .Call me picky if you like but the lives of mine are worth more than any mans ego . 9 Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,208 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 i started off with out a locator was shown how to find a dog , but i would never work one with out one now , this does not mean i don't love laying on the sod listening to a worker baying its heart out 7 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just because we have collars dosnt mean we have to lose the art of locating.Never had the belman mess up but theres always a first 2 Quote Link to post
Farmhand66 63 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside. Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground.Maybe be mate. But these knobheads tended to have a real knowlege of what they entering the dog into. Through maybe trail an error. Season after season. When foxes where to ground it harsh frosty winters. Id say them old knobheads had good knowledge of there earths. As said before a crafted art form. For each man on whatever land he walks. Knowing your landI know what era id rather of worked a dog...and it is not the present why would a collar make you less knowledgeable of the earths you work, a collar lets you follow the tubes and know the exact depth.Did not state a collar makes you less Knowlegable I was stating, there where alot less rilfes, colder winters. And id say alot more foxes to ground that the old men would of had a chance to have good idea of what they were digging to after trail an error. Am sure they dropped holes to stop ends where you drop now. Collarless. But clearly. No man with terrier would walk holes with earth dogs. Without collars in this day an age. The tech is there and its worth the investment thanks Edited March 6, 2016 by Farmhand66 Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Being perfectly honest and perhaps my dogs are poorer for it but if a place looks dodgey i aint putting a dog in .Call me picky if you like but the lives of mine are worth more than any mans ego . The facts are that we may have that luxury to pick and choose now,a dog that could work locations like that was commonplace in the past yet is like hens teeth now,terriers and their owners where at hand to deal with such situations in the past,they rarely are now,thus the age of the working terrier and owner is far poorer for it now.Ive just retired a red bitch that could be entered anywhere,after a few near misses in the last few years im reluctant to enter terriers in the same places as we,ve had to many nearly episodes,yet my sapling will learn or be lost,my lad refuses to take the chance with his,until you do its impossible to find the mutts level. 3 Quote Link to post
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