Red Deer

[stabba 10,745]

Can be and has been done. i've had 1 of each . Dressed for the dealer the stag weighed in at 300lb. Maybe 350lb fully intact. The hind was easy compared to the stag. But..be prepared to lose a dog playing with the big uns.

[D Lloyd 2,790]

This is one off tinternet i wish i took this lol...

 

i did but not with any old camra lol

[Grunter123 1,109]

I have been present when big stags have been done long time ago.

[flipbull 1,139]

This is one off tinternet i wish i took this lol...

 

Some picture that Fuji

 

Thought you had taken that pic mate haha. Still a brilliant pic though!

Edited February 17, 2016 by flipbull

[roybo 2,873]

A huge red stag at woburn 55 countable points right where's my slip lead gone

[trigger2 3,137]

 

Some funny opinions on here lol never heard a bit of water will stop a deer never mind a red .... We should of gone running em in rain when it was legal they might of laid down hahaa

Well my post wasn't opinion it was cold hard facts,I never said "water stops deer" what I'm saying is,when a beast is under pressure getting tired etc it will look for any respite to save itself using the land to it's advantage and anybody that has ever run them in there natural surroundings will tell you the same.As already pointed out it seems to be part of there natural instinct to take to the water when under threat,some don't but a lot of them do.

 

that makes sense now. ive seen fallow stags do it a couple of times as a last resort.

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Can be and has been done. i've had 1 of each . Dressed for the dealer the stag weighed in at 300lb. Maybe 350lb fully intact. The hind was easy compared to the stag. But..be prepared to lose a dog playing with the big uns.

any pictures of the dogs stabs

[krawnden 1,036]

Kenneth Cassels, one of the founder members of the deerhound coursing club, had a pure deerhound bitch called Kirsty that he used to take Scottish reds on the hill with in the 1950's. I don't know how regularly, and I don't know if she ever took stags, but I remember him telling me how she took a hind by just launching at its neck, hardly leaving a mark on it. Not sure if the beast fell and broke its neck or if the dogs' bite was what broke the neck. Kenneth was no bullshitter so I have no reason to doubt what he said. But when you consider that the deerhound was bred specifically to take red deer on the hill, and was used this way successfully on a regular basis before the widespread use of firearms, it's hardly surprising.

[forest of dean redneck 11,563]

Kenneth Cassels, one of the founder members of the deerhound coursing club, had a pure deerhound bitch called Kirsty that he used to take Scottish reds on the hill with in the 1950's. I don't know how regularly, and I don't know if she ever took stags, but I remember him telling me how she took a hind by just launching at its neck, hardly leaving a mark on it. Not sure if the beast fell and broke its neck or if the dogs' bite was what broke the neck. Kenneth was no bullshitter so I have no reason to doubt what he said. But when you consider that the deerhound was bred specifically to take red deer on the hill, and was used this way successfully on a regular basis before the widespread use of firearms, it's hardly surprising.

True but 1950 is what nearly 70 year ago?(toddler bouncing on my leg) I bet the deerhounds back then were better than what's about now, and I bet the deerhound of the early 1850-1900s was totally different again .

[forest of dean redneck 11,563]

Had a quick google look at the 1904 pic bottom right of this page

http://kilbournedeerhounds.com/DEERHOUND%20PLACES%20OF%20INTEREST.htm

[Chid 6,508]

Kenneth Cassels, one of the founder members of the deerhound coursing club, had a pure deerhound bitch called Kirsty that he used to take Scottish reds on the hill with in the 1950's. I don't know how regularly, and I don't know if she ever took stags, but I remember him telling me how she took a hind by just launching at its neck, hardly leaving a mark on it. Not sure if the beast fell and broke its neck or if the dogs' bite was what broke the neck. Kenneth was no bullshitter so I have no reason to doubt what he said. But when you consider that the deerhound was bred specifically to take red deer on the hill, and was used this way successfully on a regular basis before the widespread use of firearms, it's hardly surprising.

I'm sure the deerhounds were ran as a pack and brought the reds to bay

[krawnden 1,036]

 

Kenneth Cassels, one of the founder members of the deerhound coursing club, had a pure deerhound bitch called Kirsty that he used to take Scottish reds on the hill with in the 1950's. I don't know how regularly, and I don't know if she ever took stags, but I remember him telling me how she took a hind by just launching at its neck, hardly leaving a mark on it. Not sure if the beast fell and broke its neck or if the dogs' bite was what broke the neck. Kenneth was no bullshitter so I have no reason to doubt what he said. But when you consider that the deerhound was bred specifically to take red deer on the hill, and was used this way successfully on a regular basis before the widespread use of firearms, it's hardly surprising.

True but 1950 is what nearly 70 year ago?(toddler bouncing on my leg) I bet the deerhounds back then were better than what's about now, and I bet the deerhound of the early 1850-1900s was totally different again .

 

 

Very true. They were nowhere near as tall for one thing - probably not much more than about 26".

[Tallywacker 262]

I'm I right in thinking the highland reds would be harder for a dog/dogs to catch opposed to a forest red? purely for being a slighter animal because of the terrain..

[krawnden 1,036]

Had a quick google look at the 1904 pic bottom right of this page

http://kilbournedeerhounds.com/DEERHOUND%20PLACES%20OF%20INTEREST.htm

 

Interesting. That bottom right pic shows how dramatically different they were.

[krawnden 1,036]

 

Kenneth Cassels, one of the founder members of the deerhound coursing club, had a pure deerhound bitch called Kirsty that he used to take Scottish reds on the hill with in the 1950's. I don't know how regularly, and I don't know if she ever took stags, but I remember him telling me how she took a hind by just launching at its neck, hardly leaving a mark on it. Not sure if the beast fell and broke its neck or if the dogs' bite was what broke the neck. Kenneth was no bullshitter so I have no reason to doubt what he said. But when you consider that the deerhound was bred specifically to take red deer on the hill, and was used this way successfully on a regular basis before the widespread use of firearms, it's hardly surprising.

I'm sure the deerhounds were ran as a pack and brought the reds to bay

 

 

Not as a pack chid - usually run as a brace. Often brought 'em to bay, but some individual dogs would tackle them - from what I understand it was very much down to individual temperament.