myersbg 1,385 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Cushty this is probably the most important vote any of us will ever do, If you want your kids to be able to get a house to rent, if you want them to get a job that pays a decent wage, if you dont want to spend months on the NHS waiting list, if you need a dentist its a sodding 2 months to get to see one, our village is just full of eastern europeans, they are pig ignorant, have no manners and they are taking over. If you don't want to vote, then don't vote, but don't fill us with crap. Brian 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Cushty, is that because most of the people you know aren't on the electoral register? I don't like this government and I didn't vote for this government, but I did my bit for voting for who I thought would be better than these idiots. My lot didn't get in, but the Tories know there are several million people who actively voted against them. As for a national vote, even with your conspiracy theories, i doubt the results could be rigged. We aren't in Pakistan or North Korea. Calling someone a mug for voting is pretty stupid. You live in your little bubble mate. No mate I can Vote and majorities I know can also vote just choose not to and your right I'm happy in my bubble I'll leave the convo now anyway before I get me barred of site again lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Cushty this is probably the most important vote any of us will ever do, If you want your kids to be able to get a house to rent, if you want them to get a job that pays a decent wage, if you dont want to spend months on the NHS waiting list, if you need a dentist its a sodding 2 months to get to see one, our village is just full of eastern europeans, they are pig ignorant, have no manners and they are taking over. If you don't want to vote, then don't vote, but don't fill us with crap. Brian No problem Brian I'll leave you guys to discuss this now as I said my opinion just to say I get on well with lots of Eastern Europeans maybe you find them ignorant as go lots of others I personally get on fine with them I work with a Romanian and Latvian every day Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,838 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Each to their own, but if people don't vote, the outcome isn't a representation of the population's feelings, it's a representation of those who can be arsed, which can't be right IMO.Like I says they dont care if we vote or not they will do what they think it right "They" can't do what they want if the vote goes against them. That's what voting is about. NOT voting is playing right into their hands as it means you don't disagree enough to make the effort to put a tick in a box. Your missing the concept it's all fixed to what they want is what I'm saying beacuse I can tell you now we won't be leaving the eu If more people vote to leave than vote to stay, of course we will. If more people vote to stay, we won't. Not voting is not the way forward. Perhaps you're missing the concept of voting? You have to much trust in government no point in voting as they will do what they want either way and I actually do not know one person who would vote Perfect example David Cameron promised to allow a free vote on the hunting act that never materialised did he yet him saying that got all the hunting crowd campaigning for him sticking conservative posters on thier land etc and now they been taken for mugs litterly Only mugs Vote simple and find get telling me I don't have a right to moan about the way it is as I'm happy to live my life to way I am leaving the eu or not leaving either way will not bother or affect my life so don't care The only reason we didn't get the hunting vote is because we would loose it you tit! The vote was cancelled because the snp said the would vote against it. You and everyone you know isn't going to vote?....and you think the out vote will loose simply because it's fixed??? I don't know how to even answer that sort of stupidity! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,838 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I under stand your frustration and we all know about the corruption we are up against but this is our ONE chance....please please vote and drag everyone you know out to vote!!! We will never ever get another shot at this.it a hard enough battle for the out campaign without people who agree with us not even bothering to help! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I under stand your frustration and we all know about the corruption we are up against but this is our ONE chance....please please vote and drag everyone you know out to vote!!! We will never ever get another shot at this.it a hard enough battle for the out campaign without people who agree with us not even bothering to help! I agree 100%, this is not like voting in an election, where history has shown that it is rigged. This is a genuine first past the post vote so every vote will count, no matter where in the country you are. That is why I will vote, even though I do not vote in elections. TC 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Each to their own, but if people don't vote, the outcome isn't a representation of the population's feelings, it's a representation of those who can be arsed, which can't be right IMO.Like I says they dont care if we vote or not they will do what they think it right "They" can't do what they want if the vote goes against them. That's what voting is about. NOT voting is playing right into their hands as it means you don't disagree enough to make the effort to put a tick in a box. Your missing the concept it's all fixed to what they want is what I'm saying beacuse I can tell you now we won't be leaving the eu If more people vote to leave than vote to stay, of course we will. If more people vote to stay, we won't. Not voting is not the way forward. Perhaps you're missing the concept of voting? You have to much trust in government no point in voting as they will do what they want either way and I actually do not know one person who would vote Perfect example David Cameron promised to allow a free vote on the hunting act that never materialised did he yet him saying that got all the hunting crowd campaigning for him sticking conservative posters on thier land etc and now they been taken for mugs litterly Only mugs Vote simple and find get telling me I don't have a right to moan about the way it is as I'm happy to live my life to way I am leaving the eu or not leaving either way will not bother or affect my life so don't care The only reason we didn't get the hunting vote is because we would loose it you tit! The vote was cancelled because the snp said the would vote against it. You and everyone you know isn't going to vote?....and you think the out vote will loose simply because it's fixed??? I don't know how to even answer that sort of stupidity! the hunting vote was just between MP`s, and they vote for what the party wants, this is open to ALL voters no matter what they want so get off your arse and do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Each to their own, but if people don't vote, the outcome isn't a representation of the population's feelings, it's a representation of those who can be arsed, which can't be right IMO.Like I says they dont care if we vote or not they will do what they think it right "They" can't do what they want if the vote goes against them. That's what voting is about. NOT voting is playing right into their hands as it means you don't disagree enough to make the effort to put a tick in a box. Your missing the concept it's all fixed to what they want is what I'm saying beacuse I can tell you now we won't be leaving the eu If more people vote to leave than vote to stay, of course we will. If more people vote to stay, we won't. Not voting is not the way forward. Perhaps you're missing the concept of voting? You have to much trust in government no point in voting as they will do what they want either way and I actually do not know one person who would vote Perfect example David Cameron promised to allow a free vote on the hunting act that never materialised did he yet him saying that got all the hunting crowd campaigning for him sticking conservative posters on thier land etc and now they been taken for mugs litterly Only mugs Vote simple and find get telling me I don't have a right to moan about the way it is as I'm happy to live my life to way I am leaving the eu or not leaving either way will not bother or affect my life so don't care The only reason we didn't get the hunting vote is because we would loose it you tit! The vote was cancelled because the snp said the would vote against it. You and everyone you know isn't going to vote?....and you think the out vote will loose simply because it's fixed??? I don't know how to even answer that sort of stupidity! Don't call me names we might loose it but that's not the point David Cameron should of never made the promises and never fulfilled if could Not care wether if was won if lost that wasn't my point my point is you can't trust the government in any situation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,838 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 If we had lost the hunting vote we would never have got a second chance at it.....thank God he didn't go ahead with it! Sorry for calling you names. Vote. Campaign for others to vote. It's looking even odds at the minute. Please everyone do everything you can. Our one chance 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,014 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Just wondered how many folk would want Britain to leave the eu ? i would have thought, it would have been a white wash answer, to leave, England's never looked so bad since joining the eu, now its a mess, all it did was open the flood gates for all the scum to come in, making us English people very unhappy, the goverment did nothing about them, and now its to late, i use to love being in England, just being English use to make me feel so proud, it was a strong powerful little island, now since being in the eu its taken away them feelings and made people feel very angry with how its all turned out, foreigners seem to have more rights than us in our own country, if you say anything towards them, you get accused of being racist, they get hand outs left right and centre, i hate myself for saying it, but Englands had it, Any sign of spring up there? I thought the point of the EU was chiefly to prevent another World War. By intermingling economy's and making decisions my consensus. I wouldn't suppose to give advice on something like this. But now there is a lot of nationalist talk and that is how all that starts. Just my thoughts of course. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I've never got the idea of not voting as some sort of protest,if it's fixed what's been lost? You've wasted 5 mins walking to a polling station. And no-one cares if even the vast majority don't vote (which will never happen),lower turn out just means the peoples representation in parliament is even worse. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Well, this thread is far from over, there is a long way until June, but I am amazed at the apathy and fraudulent suggestion being made by a small minority. If you don't vote then you don't have a voice, whilst I can't remember the last politician or government I 100% believed or trusted, I would like to think the voting system in this country is not too corrupt. If the vote is for out then the Government will take us out. If you don't vote then YOUR apathy is likely to be the reason the vote is not high enough to leave! 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I've never got the idea of not voting as some sort of protest,if it's fixed what's been lost? You've wasted 5 mins walking to a polling station. And no-one cares if even the vast majority don't vote (which will never happen),lower turn out just means the peoples representation in parliament is even worse. Well it's rare that I agree 100% with a post by you but that's absolutely bang on pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,851 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I think people need to realise how massive this vote is and what it truly means.......IMHO if the vote is to stay in them that is in effect the end of the U.K. ........it may still be called Britain but it will be dead in all other respects and its people will be fully emslaved to the tax collectors in the political employ and their mates in the big corporates running the world to suit themselves. I don't think folk are ready to grasp that.......they are in their little house, paying to exist, struggling to make ends meet and generally treading water u til they die........that's what has been done to folk, that is truly what the EU and at the moment the US is all about. There's a few folk winning and everyone else is dieing 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) I don't understand voter apathy - I get why people are disillusioned with politics, but I don't see how they think abstaining will make any difference. We have the once in a lifetime referendum (take note, Scotland !), and all I seem to hear is pessimistic cries of "a leap in the dark", or threats to break up the Union, if one side doesn't get its way.......its depressing! We have our own PM talking the country down, saying we'd be " less safe, weaker and worse off" without the backing of our age-old friends in Germany ! We have the 5th largest economy in the world, so I don't understand suggestions that our trading power would be reduced by a vote to leave. China and USA seem to do OK outside the EU ! France's second biggest trading partner is USA, and China has massive trading figures with the whole of the EU and indeed, the rest of the world......... Does anyone seriously believe that BMW or EDF (Energie de France) would say "Right, they've voted to leave. Close the factories, sell the assets, you're all sacked!" ? The 'Remainers' are rather like a prisoner finding that the cell door has been left unlocked, but he doesn't escape in case it rains tomorrow ! Edited March 7, 2016 by Blackbriar 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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