Animal Rightism

[Guest Vladimir]

It seems to me, your AR are less radical then ours. American AR are fighting to abolish animal ownership all together. Now, we have a professional biologist who suggested a theory that domestication of animals happened like a coevolutionary process of adaptation of some animals to live in cooperation with humans to mutual benefits to all. At least in case with dogs it seems very plausible. Then, our dogs must have rights to hunt with us!

Edited November 27, 2007 by Vladimir

[Guest little_lloyd]

They dig up grannys here that families are connected to breeding guinea pigs for medical reasearch

 

 

 

And they have even been known to spread borken glass on coursing feilds, And steal hounds Not really the animal lover they try to make out

[CAcountry_boy 0]

They dig up grannys here that families are connected to breeding guinea pigs for medical reasearch

 

 

 

And they have even been known to spread borken glass on coursing feilds, And steal hounds Not really the animal lover they try to make out

 

then...thats it...nowhere is safe

[Missie 1]

We seem to get a wide range of antis out with the hunt I follow. We get the little old ladies who just stand with placards etc right up to the full on nutters who follow us all day, mess about with video evidence and do anything to try and get a prosecution.

 

The ALF (Animal Liberation Front) and that type of organisation are a whole different bag all together, they have taken responsibility for stealing a whole pack of hounds, only one of which was ever recovered, they use explosives and all sorts. I don't remember which group dug up the lady LL referred to.

 

I will respect the views of anyone genuinely against hunting for whatever reason, if they know what they are talking about. Those that just jump on the band wagon for the hell of it and know nothing about hunting in any form or the people that do it however make me sick!

[Guest little_lloyd]

I think we can expect a lot more with this ''global anti hunt week'' Soon!!

 

[Hob&Jill 258]

It is quite bad over here

 

Saying that, I do talk to alot of people when I am out ferreting etc and have never met a single one who has slagged me off, most are genuinely interested about it.

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

From my own observations, Vlad', it's PETA that make the most obvious differance. As in; In US they're right in ye face and, probably, a Force Majeur against hunting as any other aspect of animals?

 

I do remember reading a piece in a magazine (American) decades back in which the hunter writing it was banging off against " The GreenPeacers " who had turned up acting much as the typical british Anti / Hunt Sab may be expected to today? Pardon me but, as a former 'Supporter Member' of Greenpeace, I never once heard anything from that organisation or any of it's grass roots members who I met, which suggested they particularly gave a damn about " Hunting " issues. Maybe the author was using a rather generic termanology there?

 

However, to return to the beginning: PETA. Wholey and purely dedicated to the global extermination ~ Err; 'Freedom from Mans Slavery' (by dint of summary execution, at PETA's hands) ~ of Any and Every creature which mankind holds any influence over. So, they don't give a fart what breed of Dog it is, or what work it may or may not do. If you have it in ye care? They want it in their purpose built walk in freezer, right there beneath PETA HQ.

 

Thing is, see; Most brit's see that as an " American Problem ". Not so. I can assure ye of that through very stark, very personal experience. There's far more than most would even dare imagine, amongst the british populace, signing cheques and even talking with great pride of having met Ingrid Newkirk ..... and agreeing whole heartedly with her 'Vision'. A vision of a world where All and Every Domesticated Animal in the World may find it's own " Liberation from Mans Slavery ". Via that walk in freezer, down in the basement of her own main office tower block. The same office in which she, somewhat confusingly keeps several, quite domesticted, cats?!

 

The Muslims smilingly talk of the great and coming Jihad. PETA just bide their time and spread their own venom much more subtley.

 

Thank f*ck I've about had my time and don't need to overly worry myself about the near enough future!

[Guest Vladimir]

From my own observations, Vlad', it's PETA that make the most obvious differance. As in; In US they're right in ye face and, probably, a Force Majeur against hunting as any other aspect of animals?

 

I do remember reading a piece in a magazine (American) decades back in which the hunter writing it was banging off against " The GreenPeacers " who had turned up acting much as the typical british Anti / Hunt Sab may be expected to today? Pardon me but, as a former 'Supporter Member' of Greenpeace, I never once heard anything from that organisation or any of it's grass roots members who I met, which suggested they particularly gave a damn about " Hunting " issues. Maybe the author was using a rather generic termanology there?

 

However, to return to the beginning: PETA. Wholey and purely dedicated to the global extermination ~ Err; 'Freedom from Mans Slavery' (by dint of summary execution, at PETA's hands) ~ of Any and Every creature which mankind holds any influence over. So, they don't give a fart what breed of Dog it is, or what work it may or may not do. If you have it in ye care? They want it in their purpose built walk in freezer, right there beneath PETA HQ.

 

Thing is, see; Most brit's see that as an " American Problem ". Not so. I can assure ye of that through very stark, very personal experience. There's far more than most would even dare imagine, amongst the british populace, signing cheques and even talking with great pride of having met Ingrid Newkirk ..... and agreeing whole heartedly with her 'Vision'. A vision of a world where All and Every Domesticated Animal in the World may find it's own " Liberation from Mans Slavery ". Via that walk in freezer, down in the basement of her own main office tower block. The same office in which she, somewhat confusingly keeps several, quite domesticted, cats?!

 

The Muslims smilingly talk of the great and coming Jihad. PETA just bide their time and spread their own venom much more subtley.

 

Thank f*ck I've about had my time and don't need to overly worry myself about the near enough future!

This is a sort of religion and ideology. We should educate the public and especially keep an aye on politicians flirting with AR. In one of the recent issues of National Geographic, at last, I see a good article "Conserving Hunters" by R. Poole, November, 2007. There is also a Prof. Budinasky theory about domestication, which is the best weapon against AR ideology

http://www.amazon.com/Covenant-Wild-Animal...n/dp/0688096107

So far, we are doing fine and the hunting is going on. In Virgnia Right to Hunt is in the state Constitution.

Edited November 27, 2007 by Vladimir