flipbull 1,139 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Screenshots_2016-02-06-12-26-07.png Screenshots_2016-02-06-12-26-07.png What site is that sold on mate? It's £47 on ebay Quote Link to post
grompz 703 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 from growing pups right through adulthood,i give a daily dose of sf 37 powder,seems to give them a good coat,good healthy teeth,and agood healthy condition,along with agood varied diet,not a bad price either on ebay, Quote Link to post
tote 854 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Screenshots_2016-02-06-12-26-07.png Screenshots_2016-02-06-12-26-07.pngWhat site is that sold on mate? It's £47 on ebay Different sizes mate, £16 would be for 160 grams, £47 for 500 grams. Lawsons are doing 500g for £33. http://www.lawsonanimalfeeds.co.uk/vitamins-supplements/108-vetsearch-white-e-500gm.html Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Feed it, excersise it and work it. f**k me, people want this that and the other cross, if ain't doing a certain party trick at 12 month it's no good, powders, steroids supplements. Feck me, talk about today's lurchers. 1 Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 proper good food, clean water, and good exercise every day, and a good bit of work, and you don't really need all these supplements, and mag boxes or all of these things, 5 Quote Link to post
slip lead 862 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Greyhound whippet shop or greyhound superstore.. 1 Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,173 Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Dogs are athletes and if help is available let them have it. My dogs get the best diet and are worked hard. I would like to think I give them everything I possibly can and if that means using a supplement so be it. If I had the room for a mag box, I'd get one, as I had good reports from them. Times move on and things get better. You wouldn't see an Olympian refusing help, be it supplements or otherwise. If you feel you don't need them, that's up to you. Give me your dog for a season and we will see if it needs a little extra . The bread and milk thing is a very good point. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Dogs are athletes and if help is available let them have it. My dogs get the best diet and are worked hard. I would like to think I give them everything I possibly can and if that means using a supplement so be it. If I had the room for a mag box, I'd get one, as I had good reports from them. Times move on and things get better. You wouldn't see an Olympian refusing help, be it supplements or otherwise. If you feel you don't need them, that's up to you. Give me your dog for a season and we will see if it needs a little extra . The bread and milk thing is a very good point. Good post that. The athletes of the 1950s kept it simple. The athletes of today complicate things, but perform better, go figure... 1 Quote Link to post
Country Joe 1,411 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I've been in racing Greyhound kennels, and its like Boots the chemist,as many vitamins you could shake a stick at, even Tumeric, don't know what good that does.I think these dogs must rattle when running.I have used supplements, but now I just use a teaspoon of Seaweed powder. 1 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I think you will find most top Olympic athletes will have nutritionists making sure they get everything they need in their diet, away from supplements as the risk of contamination is too high, also nutrients are meant to be absorbed into the body in natural combinations as designed in nature and often on its own the benefits are greatly reduced or none existent (not my word proven fact). Hence why modern sports science and top athletes are moving away from supplements and going back to nature and just a very scientifically calculated calorie and nutrient rich diet which is monitored very closely to ensure their are no deficiencies present. IMO greyhound trainers etc will be giving supplements in the hope that it has a benefit, as their are such small margins in the sport, if they had access to the science top athletes had then their dogs would again get everything and more than they needed from their diet. That's not to say their isn't a benefit for many people and dogs with supplements, but the reason being is most peoples and probably dogs diets is deficient of many of the nutrients we need to thrive. Probably less so in dogs as they have less access to the varied but consistently crap food stuffs humans seem to devour atb Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 should we really be comparing human metabolism and diet with canine metabolism and diet ?? in my opinion NO, as its two totally different things so why try to make a comparison ??? this is where confusion comes in as we are two totally different species,our ancestors made only two basic changes to the wolf. They changed the wolf’s appearance and they changed its mind. What they did not change, was the basic internal workings or physiology of the wolf…As a result, the basic workings or physiology of modern dogs is no different or very little different to their ancestor the wolf…The basic environment which the modern dog requires in terms of food and exercise is exactly the same as it was (and still is) for the wolf.” Having established that, despite appearances, dogs are essentially wolves,Raw bones with meat are a major part of their diet… They eat offal such as liver and heart. They eat raw eggs. They eat decaying material…They eat a wide variety of foodstuffs. Insects, bark, soil, birds – complete with their tiny bones and feathers – whatever. Every meal they eat is totally raw. Not one part of it is cooked Ever. They eat vegetables including herbs, from the gut of their prey. This vegetable material is raw, totally crushed and partly digested. They eat feces. A wolf’s diet contains almost no grains… For a wolf – not one single meal consists of dry dog food. They don’t eat canned dog food either or supplements 2 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) Cocker I think your points are right in many ways, but to be honest if your looking at it in real Scientific terms (of what we know today) then there really isn't that much different between a human and wolf or dog, yes we have evolved to eat slightly different diets and physically look different. But if you take it right down to internal organs, tissue and boring cellular level then their isn't really much difference at all, so actually in my eyes it is a fair comparison if done correctly. A living thing needs certain things to thrive and survive. The key is knowing what things (ie foods/ nutrients) the individual body or even cells needs to survive and in truth this isn't much different in any species, we just eat different thungs to achieve the same aim with slight variations. I could put a human heart in front of plenty of people and a pigs heart and the differences are minute and at cellular level pretty much non-existent the same with most organs, tissue, blood, etc etc they also all work in the same way need, essentially need the same things to function. Sorry to get scientific buts its my day job so I hopefully have something to add and this is an interesting thread atb Edited February 9, 2016 by matt1979 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 The way most talk on here about there dogs getting worked every night of the week, with all the miles n miles of biking to get dogs fit and supplements and diets and god knows what I'm supprised there's anything left in Great Britain 1 Quote Link to post
king 11,972 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 The way most talk on here about there dogs getting worked every night of the week, with all the miles n miles of biking to get dogs fit and supplements and diets and god knows what I'm supprised there's anything left in Great BritainAnd that's exactly why most working dogs are much healthier and cared for than the house bound park walked couch sleeping dog. Because every 1 on this section and others sections are addicted to dogs.working them housing caring training etc. And we are all doing the same thing and on the same path.and that's to better our canine best friends in any way we can. I think about dogs morning /day/night. Yes maybe my head is fecked lol. But it's a great hobby.feck the pubs give me the mountain and some dogs.. 2 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 The way most talk on here about there dogs getting worked every night of the week, with all the miles n miles of biking to get dogs fit and supplements and diets and god knows what I'm supprised there's anything left in Great BritainAnd that's exactly why most working dogs are much healthier and cared for than the house bound park walked couch sleeping dog. Because every 1 on this section and others sections are addicted to dogs.working them housing caring training etc. And we are all doing the same thing and on the same path.and that's to better our canine best friends in any way we can. I think about dogs morning /day/night. Yes maybe my head is fecked lol. But it's a great hobby.feck the pubs give me the mountain and some dogs.. Your missing the point mate. If dogs are getting worked that hard that many times a week taking so much quarry that they need these supplements then the UK would be f****d for hunting. Still loads of quarry left all over 1 Quote Link to post
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