Unnatural Selection.......

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

 

Are we as humans unevolving? For the first time in the history of life we are encouraging the weak, thick, feckless,unhealthy, lazy to breed while the workers are having less kids.

So were does that leave " evoloutionism " as a philosophy dido?

I dont think this is the first time the weak, or unhealthy, in your words, has bred an had children, so were does that leave evoloutioism dido.

 

Not looking an argument, just curious to your answers.

Trying hard to get another evo discussion going aren't you mate

 

This topics about mans influence on our surroundings, observable changes in things around us, things that we made change. Scientific facts............Moths becoming darker after the pollution of the industrial revolution, the blackthorn being the ancestor of all plum trees, altered by man, dogs becoming different breeds because of man..............No Darwinism here, just facts

Nah mate, just asking some questions, did you not know that in ten years they didnt see a change in the moth colours, so they had to stick two fake moths to the tree for the photo, check it out, we didnt change feck all, lol

[kanny 20,775]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/evolution-watching-speciation-occur-observations/ Edited February 2, 2016 by kanny

[Francie 6,368]

Kanny read it again, theres not one single evidence of macro evoloution, all it is, is same kind of animal or plant, with different variations, depending on envoirment, or food supply, it was still a flower, still a cell, still an orca, micro evoloution as they call it, i would say variation, which the article uses, an it uses kinds, hmmm

 

I dont argue this, but this no way evidence for mans decent, this is how they trick people, an students an yourself, they try an wrap micro with macro, its a con, show me macro, but this will never happen, evoloution is a tricky word, it has to be defined, before a discussion starts, nice try tho

[kanny 20,775]

Macro micro there both the same just on different time scales and neither time scale matches ours making it difficult to physicaly observe evolution in progress as detailed records have been only kept for how long ? 300 year ish?..... just look at the whale family tree or is it all lies?

Kanny read it again, theres not one single evidence of macro evoloution, all it is, is same kind of animal or plant, with different variations, depending on envoirment, or food supply, it was still a flower, still a cell, still an orca, micro evoloution as they call it, i would say variation, which the article uses, an it uses kinds, hmmm

I dont argue this, but this no way evidence for mans decent, this is how they trick people, an students an yourself, they try an wrap micro with macro, its a con, show me macro, but this will never happen, evoloution is a tricky word, it has to be defined, before a discussion starts, nice try tho

[Francie 6,368]

There not the same tho mate micro is observable, after there kind is what we see, tryed an tested, variations, macro has not been seen, an never will.

 

Are you talking about the bones at the back of the whale, if so thats special muscles attached to them wee bones so the whale can reproduce.

 

An even if it was old remnants of legs, how come the whale went from land to water, when its supposed to be the other way round, thanks for the reply mate

[Francie 6,368]

Could you show me the whales tree mate

[kanny 20,775]

1 minute 17 seconds .... I get the feeling I'm falling into a cunning trap :

[Francie 6,368]

So they transitioned from water to land, then from land back to water, have a think about it mate, lol

[kanny 20,775]

So they transitioned from water to land, then from land back to water, have a think about it mate, lol

So a air breathing mammal evolved in water have a think about that mate lol

[neems 2,406]

There not the same tho mate micro is observable, after there kind is what we see, tryed an tested, variations, macro has not been seen, an never will.

 

Are you talking about the bones at the back of the whale, if so thats special muscles attached to them wee bones so the whale can reproduce.

 

An even if it was old remnants of legs, how come the whale went from land to water, when its supposed to be the other way round, thanks for the reply mate

 

Where does your understanding of the term 'Macro evolution' come from?

In every generation mutations occur,if they turn out to be beneficial they reproduce themselves in greater number.

This leads to new characteristics and when enough new characteristics develop it becomes classified as a different species.

 

Does anyone suggest that one day a fish with wings and a beak was born?

 

Micro evolution + time = macro evolution

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

So they transitioned from water to land, then from land back to water, have a think about it mate, lol

So a air breathing mammal evolved in water have a think about that mate lol

 

Mammals evolved on land. They've always needed oxygen, one way or the other.

 

Sea mammals will have made the transition to water, from land as the earliest mammals were small rat-like creatures that evolved from reptiles.

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

There not the same tho mate micro is observable, after there kind is what we see, tryed an tested, variations, macro has not been seen, an never will.

 

Are you talking about the bones at the back of the whale, if so thats special muscles attached to them wee bones so the whale can reproduce.

 

An even if it was old remnants of legs, how come the whale went from land to water, when its supposed to be the other way round, thanks for the reply mate

Where does your understanding of the term 'Macro evolution' come from?

In every generation mutations occur,if they turn out to be beneficial they reproduce themselves in greater number.

This leads to new characteristics and when enough new characteristics develop it becomes classified as a different species.

 

Does anyone suggest that one day a fish with wings and a beak was born?

 

Micro evolution + time = macro evolution

Different species, but still the same animal, just different colour etc

 

Can you show me any mutations, benifical, please,

 

Micro equals, what we see in nature today, yesterday, always, macro has never been seen,

 

Where is the evidence for the macro transition from micro, if its time thats needed no one has witnessed it, an im still waiting to see any pasitive examples that havent been doubted.

[neems 2,406]

 

 

There not the same tho mate micro is observable, after there kind is what we see, tryed an tested, variations, macro has not been seen, an never will.

 

Are you talking about the bones at the back of the whale, if so thats special muscles attached to them wee bones so the whale can reproduce.

 

An even if it was old remnants of legs, how come the whale went from land to water, when its supposed to be the other way round, thanks for the reply mate

Where does your understanding of the term 'Macro evolution' come from?

In every generation mutations occur,if they turn out to be beneficial they reproduce themselves in greater number.

This leads to new characteristics and when enough new characteristics develop it becomes classified as a different species.

 

Does anyone suggest that one day a fish with wings and a beak was born?

 

Micro evolution + time = macro evolution

Different species, but still the same animal, just different colour etc

 

Can you show me any mutations, benifical, please,

 

Micro equals, what we see in nature today, yesterday, always, macro has never been seen,

 

Where is the evidence for the macro transition from micro, if its time thats needed no one has witnessed it, an im still waiting to see any pasitive examples that havent been doubted.

 

 

The smaller fish in the OP would be one case of mutations leading to a smaller fish being advantageous.

 

By your thinking a human is a great ape,with shorter arms,longer legs and a bigger brain etc still the same animal.

 

And of course you don't live long enough to see a species evolve enough to become classified as a new species,you can only catch a glimpse of this process happening very slowly.

 

Macro evolution means enough micro evolution has occurred to reclassify the species.