The Real Devil Within.

[carp king 155]

Funniest part is they are just fun shows and some folk pay a pound win say champion lurcher terrier or whatever at say Welsh game fair then call there dogs champions lol I don't understand working shows to be honest but again they are just a bit of fun but folk do take it serious and put extra pound notes when breeding a litter and advertising them as champion sired/ dam'd which in fact is fiction. If folk are competitive about showing they should enter kc shows at least they can be recognised champions. Just my opinion lads can't be arsed with showing myself

[Bosun11 537]

I enjoy a day out at a show, for the same reasons others do.

Thing is, i live in a part of the world that has a number of good working dog shows, run by clubs that activley seek out working judges wherever possible BUT the difficulty is always FINDING those judges because they are few and far between!

I have a photo somewhere of me and Treehands jumping into the breech to judge because we were let down at the last minute, it should never happen but sadly it does. Thankfully we did a fair old job that day lol.

If working dog clubs are going to run sound working dog shows, then working dog men need to step up and both judge and show....

Ya gotta be in it to win it fellas!

[carp king 155]

Ya right bosun mate but what actually is a working judge

[Bosun11 537]

Ya right bosun mate but what actually is a working judge

I should have said working dog man! The type of judge clubs should seek are those who are known to work their own dogs and would try to seek out and place workers (as they are seen to be..)

Its a difficult and often unpleasant task, most judges would probably tell you that they usually have chosen their top three the minute they step in the ring, because there ain't no exact formular to this, its simply personal choice and should always be seen as that BUT lets be dead honest, if that judge is a working dog man, the chances of those three being working dogs rises significantly.

[carp king 155]

Well said bosun mate

[Rat face 1,655]

there only a bit of fun end of the day i think the key is having the right lads to judge thats willing to put a few noses out of joint and pic a worker,

[Bosun11 537]

there only a bit of fun end of the day i think the key is having the right lads to judge thats willing to put a few noses out of joint and pic a worker,

Dead right and better put than me..!!

[Plucky1 1,119]

there only a bit of fun end of the day i think the key is having the right lads to judge thats willing to put a few noses out of joint and pic a worker,

you still can,t win as you will always upset somebody,do you pick a big terrier that's showing heavy signs of serious work or go for a nice smaller type with less obvious signs of work,the most marked are not necessarily the best workers,it really is about what the judge actually likes and works himself, Plucky

[Treehands 1,417]

My thoughts are , pick the dog you would most like to take home with you.

[TonyOrmy 128]

tree hands did you ever see tillys little Russell cross calld ugly ,carnt remember what show it was but he got a first for the ugliest terrier of the day lol, proud as punch he was haha

[fireman 10,884]

there only a bit of fun end of the day i think the key is having the right lads to judge thats willing to put a few noses out of joint and pic a worker,

I've judged a few hunt terrier shows and i pick the one i would walk to a hole with in every class and not just the entered one ,i've upset a few with my choice s but i find that bit when folk get all stroppy the best bit of the day ..

[neil cooney 10,416]

 

there only a bit of fun end of the day i think the key is having the right lads to judge thats willing to put a few noses out of joint and pic a worker,

you still can,t win as you will always upset somebody,do you pick a big terrier that's showing heavy signs of serious work or go for a nice smaller type with less obvious signs of work,the most marked are not necessarily the best workers,it really is about what the judge actually likes and works himself, Plucky

 

One show I judged a few years ago when it came to picking the champion the Whippet judge and the Lurcher judge came over to me after examining the terrier I'd picked and said "we can't span the terrier."

I said "I've a yard full of terriers that can't be spanned, that would make me a hypocrite."

Fair enough they said.

[pablo esc 1,598]

Haven't a clue, have you Neil, and the one's who think it's down to spanning a dog., advice to anyone, take no notice of these people, unless you want to be wronged

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Trouble is its easy to get swayed by a decent cleavage ,even better on a women .Roll on summer eh and get away from this non stop digging .

[bryanm45 787]

Well there's a thing, "the devil within" what you worried about, I think get yourself and your dogs to these shows and tell them what you do and why you do it, let people understand what goes on, how the law makes you jump through hoops for pest control, once people understand they might sympathise with what you are trying to achieve, I think once people see a half eaten sheep that had got stuck on its back still alive might be something to stick against anti's, just a different view on it.