abarrett 462 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Its a wonder some one some where hasn't come up with the idea Of putting all the laws ,rules ,etiquette and care for a shotgun/ firearm In a book to give to new applicants Then make them sit a theory test at £50 a try Quote Link to post
nuggett 58 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yea I thought it was harsh if they said you been declined because you didn't declare I'd of said fair enough having to go to court does not seem harsh just to hand me a fine and refuse my application bull shit you ask me Quote Link to post
nuggett 58 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Just got out of court 350 fine [BANNED TEXT] a expensive f***ing experience bolloxs to the shot gun licence Quote Link to post
Welsh_red 4,644 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That's a expensive mistake Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That's a complete joke, reason been, I just got off the phone not 5 minutes ago to my firearms licensing team about criminal records and what I need to put down, in case I couldn't remember something from. 30 years ago, he said just put what you can remember, dates if possible, if not don't worry as they have all the information at their fingertips and can find it all out, and will do as part of the application. So it seems, his information was incorrect, and if I have forgotten something then I may face prosecution, and no doubt they will deny telling me that ! Quote Link to post
Alsone 789 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) That's a complete joke, reason been, I just got off the phone not 5 minutes ago to my firearms licensing team about criminal records and what I need to put down, in case I couldn't remember something from. 30 years ago, he said just put what you can remember, dates if possible, if not don't worry as they have all the information at their fingertips and can find it all out, and will do as part of the application. So it seems, his information was incorrect, and if I have forgotten something then I may face prosecution, and no doubt they will deny telling me that ! Rabid use your mobile phone in future for calls like this and if you have Android, download an App called ACR (Automated Call Recording). It basically records every incoming and outgoing call and gives you the option of saving it when the call ends. I'd save a call like that onto my pc and maybe even onto a disk or usb and then store 1 copy with my Firearm Application as well as leaving one on the phone / pc. That way if it ever comes into question, you have some evidence to show you followed their advice. Edited March 10, 2016 by Alsone 2 Quote Link to post
nuggett 58 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well the judge wiped the floor with me and it was a genuine mistake and a very costly one gutted that il not be allowed my licence aswell Quote Link to post
nuggett 58 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The firearms officer came to my house pointed out I'd missed a conviction and said I've got to report it but you probably have smack on the wrist no smack in my wallet more like Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That's a complete joke, reason been, I just got off the phone not 5 minutes ago to my firearms licensing team about criminal records and what I need to put down, in case I couldn't remember something from. 30 years ago, he said just put what you can remember, dates if possible, if not don't worry as they have all the information at their fingertips and can find it all out, and will do as part of the application. So it seems, his information was incorrect, and if I have forgotten something then I may face prosecution, and no doubt they will deny telling me that ! Rabid use your mobile phone in future for calls like this and if you have Android, download an App called ACR (Automated Call Recording). It basically records every incoming and outgoing call and gives you the option of saving it when the call ends. I'd save a call like that onto my pc and maybe even onto a disk or usb and then store 1 copy with my Firearm Application as well as leaving one on the phone / pc. That way if it ever comes into question, you have some evidence to show you followed their advice. Thanks, too late for me now, hopefully I've not forgotten some old silly thing, I did use my mobile, and could prove I rang them, but no way to prove what was said, I will remember that for the future and see if I can find the equivalent for iPhone. Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well the judge wiped the floor with me and it was a genuine mistake and a very costly one gutted that il not be allowed my licence aswell I actually feel for you in some respects pal, it's not always easy to remember every little thing going back 30 odd years or more in some cases, it all seems harsh, I get the not giving a licence out, but to take you back to court........ Quote Link to post
abarrett 462 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Many years ago on my first application I asked about forgetting something that happened years ago The fire arms dept ( Staffordshire) told me to go to the local police station and get a print out Of all convictions photo copy it then attach it to the form I think it cost me about £10 Bit like today's crb check Takes all the thoughts of hope that's right out of the process Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) Many years ago on my first application I asked about forgetting something that happened years ago The fire arms dept ( Staffordshire) told me to go to the local police station and get a print out Of all convictions photo copy it then attach it to the form I think it cost me about £10 Bit like today's crb check Takes all the thoughts of hope that's right out of the process Ha, I offered to do this today, it's called a subject access form, it costs exactly a tenner, but the police cannot do it, it's now done by a company called acro and takes. Up to 40 days, when I suggested I was looking at this option I was told absolutely no need for that ! Makes me wonder if they are trying to set people up to fail ? Edited March 10, 2016 by Rabid Quote Link to post
walshie 2,804 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I would think it depends on the offence and how long ago. There's a world of difference between forgetting a caution for something stupid 30 years ago and failing to declare a GBH charge from 5 years ago. (Not saying anyone on here has done that.) Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That's a complete joke, reason been, I just got off the phone not 5 minutes ago to my firearms licensing team about criminal records and what I need to put down, in case I couldn't remember something from. 30 years ago, he said just put what you can remember, dates if possible, if not don't worry as they have all the information at their fingertips and can find it all out, and will do as part of the application. So it seems, his information was incorrect, and if I have forgotten something then I may face prosecution, and no doubt they will deny telling me that ! Rabid use your mobile phone in future for calls like this and if you have Android, download an App called ACR (Automated Call Recording). It basically records every incoming and outgoing call and gives you the option of saving it when the call ends. I'd save a call like that onto my pc and maybe even onto a disk or usb and then store 1 copy with my Firearm Application as well as leaving one on the phone / pc. That way if it ever comes into question, you have some evidence to show you followed their advice. Thanks, too late for me now, hopefully I've not forgotten some old silly thing, I did use my mobile, and could prove I rang them, but no way to prove what was said, I will remember that for the future and see if I can find the equivalent for iPhone. You don't have to record any phone calls and you don't have to worry, you simply have to be sensible, simply avoid making a definitive final binding statement. List all you can remember and then add something along the lines of, to the best of my knowledge belief and memory! Simple! 3 Quote Link to post
Rabid 1,936 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) That's a complete joke, reason been, I just got off the phone not 5 minutes ago to my firearms licensing team about criminal records and what I need to put down, in case I couldn't remember something from. 30 years ago, he said just put what you can remember, dates if possible, if not don't worry as they have all the information at their fingertips and can find it all out, and will do as part of the application. So it seems, his information was incorrect, and if I have forgotten something then I may face prosecution, and no doubt they will deny telling me that ! [/quote Rabid use your mobile phone in future for calls like this and if you have Android, download an App called ACR (Automated Call Recording). It basically records every incoming and outgoing call and gives you the option of saving it when the call ends. I'd save a call like that onto my pc and maybe even onto a disk or usb and then store 1 copy with my Firearm Application as well as leaving one on the phone / pc. That way if it ever comes into question, you have some evidence to show you followed their advice. Thanks, too late for me now, hopefully I've not forgotten some old silly thing, I did use my mobile, and could prove I rang them, but no way to prove what was said, I will remember that for the future and see if I can find the equivalent for iPhone. You don't have to record any phone calls and you don't have to worry, you simply have to be sensible, simply avoid making a definitive final binding statement. List all you can remember and then add something along the lines of, to the best of my knowledge belief and memory! Simple! Yes I did that, I recalled seeing something very similar on here last year so added it underneath just in case :-) Edited March 10, 2016 by Rabid Quote Link to post
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