timmy k 591 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 By the way I hope it doesn't seem like I'm ganging up on lee, I'm just giving my opinion, I've enjoyed a lot of lees post so good luck for the future Quote Link to post
hare_n_hounds 157 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 i think its mainly luck! No one can guarantee a pup off a grafter will be same as parents- it's like saying a footballer or boxers kids will be born with there parents abilities... Nonsense! But I can see why worker to worker is an important part of a breeding plan, hopefully tip the odds of a pup succeeding in your favour.. I could be wrong, usually an haha, that's my thoughts on it though. 2 Quote Link to post
Mixedgrill 704 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 By the way I hope it doesn't seem like I'm ganging up on lee, I'm just giving my opinion, I've enjoyed a lot of lees post so good luck for the futureyour not being hard on Lee lets face it there no such thing as a 2 hour dog either the dog has it or it don't? I understand what Lee is on about but the 2 hour dog is as good as a ten minute dog and dare I say it,it's only as good as it's last hunt 1 Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'm a thick skinned lad fellas 3 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,082 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Zilverhaze is spot on... genuine working terriers when vetted to the correct folk are usually laid back quiet individuals, but when there in work mode there's that cold streak of confidence and the best take everything in there stride... the breeders of the genuine successful quiet lines are the same... genuine working terrier men with the same cold streak, but when you mess up...contact can be cut like a thread as well as access to genuine blood and access to the same men who keep the true circle turning.... No money ever passes... just the same ideology, the same ethics, and morals, the circle gels well just like the blood that gets passed free between yards.... there's pockets of these men all over the U.K. and EIRE.. and I personally know some who are struggling at the minute to get what they deserve in there kennels..why? because these pups are not just churned out... there tested fully to make sure they are still going forwards...not backwards or stagnant....and made sure they go to consistent yards that already keeps them turning...not churning! 5 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,463 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 i think its mainly luck! No one can guarantee a pup off a grafter will be same as parents- it's like saying a footballer or boxers kids will be born with there parents abilities... Nonsense! But I can see why worker to worker is an important part of a breeding plan, hopefully tip the odds of a pup succeeding in your favour.. I could be wrong, usually an haha, that's my thoughts on it though. You've just proved my point, all the information in the world and none of it sank in, luck my arse, you make your own luck in this game 3 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) What a load of shite. Theres a lot higher success rate in litters of working parents from generation after generation of working dogs than there is from haphazard or just average breedings. Thats a fact and there are dozens of lads out there digging to dogs every week that will say exactly that. Edited January 23, 2016 by Rabbit Hunter 1 Quote Link to post
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Lol you either get it or you don't it's that simple 3 Quote Link to post
crazydave 185 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I know lad there who have bred high pecentage of workers for years and years you telling me they had 20 years of good luck? Mite ask them what numbers they putting on the lottery lol 2 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,082 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 also on the 2 hour comment...at least the lads being honest with himself and getting out there trying... I think what he was trying to say was...from what he has been told by a few already in the game is don't ruin the young dog....let him take it all in his stride...and when the bug really bites and you start travelling... youll soon know what you have... best of luck with him and if he doesn't work hope you do the right thing... 1 Quote Link to post
hare_n_hounds 157 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 so none of you have had dogs of this that or the other blood in them, reared them entered them correctly and they have still jacked or what ever??? If you read my post properly I'm sure I said worker to worker could tip the odds in ones favour of success...! I'm meter saying breeding isn't the only factor- I think you do have to have abit of luck on your side.... Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I must be fecking lucky coz my dog is of unknown back ground I was told a crock of shit when I brought him for 250 coz he was in the closest litter to my home lol Quote Link to post
crazydave 185 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) What numbers you got on tonight lee ?? Edited January 23, 2016 by crazydave Quote Link to post
hare_n_hounds 157 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I know lad there who have bred high pecentage of workers for years and years you telling me they had 20 years of good luck? Mite ask them what numbers they putting on the lottery lol Ask him and pm me them . I could do with the money Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 What a load of shite. Theres a lot higher success rate in litters of working parents from generation after generation of working dogs than there is from haphazard or just average breedings. Thats a fact and there are dozens of lads out there digging to dogs every week that will say exactly that. I agree with RH,you might get a decent worker from as RH says a haphazard breeding but that would be a 1 off in the litter where-as with parents from generations of well bred workers of the same line you increase your chances big time and the success rate in litters is a far higher %. 3 Quote Link to post
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