buster gonads 862 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dogs don't need it.good diet draught free kennel.job done. Home from lamping on a cold wet night, a cold dog uses alot of energy to get and keep warm, if i can help it out i will. Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,095 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I tried a tube heater from Argos a few year ago,,,fecking pants,,,a few inches away you couldn't feel anything...maybe just the Argos one... Heat lamp with a ceramic bulb,,,apart from this winter with it being mild,,,mine are on 24/7 from November till,,it warms up,,usually March 1 Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Tomo, tube heaters are abit like that but they will fetch the temp of the sleeping box up, i have a door flap on mine too, as a bonus it stops the dogs water freezing up to as the bowl is set into the the same timber as the sleeping box floor. Quote Link to post
bird 10,013 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dogs don't need it.good diet draught free kennel.job done. Home from lamping on a cold wet night, a cold dog uses alot of energy to get and keep warm, if i can help it out i will. true when they put in long night and tired , they don't want be shriving to try to keep warm, once they lay down in the kennel, there body temp will drop down once they cool down anyway So bit of heat will deff help, and its only 1 feckin light bulb as said it just keep a nice temp, it don't fry them lol. it deff great to see them next day with no stiffness, and its the heat helps there muscles I like to see Buck next day bouncing around and he does with heat lamp, and he got very good coat, so its more to help stiffness in his case more than just for warm kennel Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I guess some dogs hold a good coat even in the house as mine does, overheats even when there's ice on the floor, my little busher feels the cold though as his jacket is not brilliant, he might do better kennelled? Also have to think about dogs that struggle to hold weight, do you really want them using that beef fish and bone to keep warm or build some muscle and fat? Interesting topic. Atb Joesupose it depends on your kennel some trap all the warmth in others dont hold any heat in. some kennels need heat lamps others dont. i added extra insulation maybe to much as the dogs in summer tend to sleep outside rather then in it???? i got a raised camp bed in my storage part now so if back stupid o clock i dont wake the house. slept in comfort in there loads lol 1 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,573 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not currently using anything. I've got a length of armoured cable in place which I sourced last week ready to connect to a tube heater but not ordered the heater yet. I just aren't convinced they need it. I got in from work at 3am this morning. -3c on the car thermometer. Went up to the kennel and both dogs were warm to the touch and the straw where they had been lying was red hot. It's a decent dry and raised kennel with no draft at all, a good 18 inches of straw bedding and 2 dogs together. They are honestly like toast and I don't want to introduce unnecessary artificial heat when they have got good coats and seem to handle being outside well. Would there coats become poorer like that of a dog kept indoors? Would they feel the cold more in the day when the heat source is turned off at 8am and it's still really cold? These are just a couple of the questions I haven't answered yet and hence why I'm holding off. Money isn't an issue and nor is the power source. As said I've got the armoured cable in place. I think you are right to go on what your dogs are telling you. If they look warm and happy thats it,but remember it can go colder some years and a few years ago we had 13below. Two dogs make a great difference but if you lost one and temps plummit then youve got a cold dog. The worst for me is a cold wet dog back from work.Possibly hes lost some blood aswell.He needs a good warm meal and some heat on him in the form of a heat lamp for me because its the nearest thing to the sun warming you through. Ive got bullx dogs with very short coats,and I know when they are feeling the cold because like you I just observe them. Dont quite understand why you would turn heat off at 8 though.Mines on all the time the dogs in kennel.When they go out they are active and when they go back theyve got the heat again. I dont keep heat on saplings that are carrying a bit of fat (not too much) and bed together but dogs that are being worked and carrying little body fat and have short coat can benefit,but its not necessary. They also seem to suffer less from rheumatism in old age. My post was based on everyday kennelling, not for a dog that is wet, injured or suffering from blood loss. Sure this would require additional care. I also assumed that most people use the heat lamps on a timer. I've never heard of anyone using a heat lamp 24/7 during the winter months. That's a first for me. My dogs spend the night in the house after lamping, i can keep an eye on them, dry them, clean them up and they can spread out on a big quilt. But I don't have the heating blasting, I keep it cool. Same for a retired dog suffering rheumatism, it would be indoors My kennels are a brick building with a tiled roof like a house.Dogs live there and eat there and treated there.Its all contained including kitchen and sick room. Dogs are heated individually as needed until the outsider temp come up. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not currently using anything. I've got a length of armoured cable in place which I sourced last week ready to connect to a tube heater but not ordered the heater yet. I just aren't convinced they need it. I got in from work at 3am this morning. -3c on the car thermometer. Went up to the kennel and both dogs were warm to the touch and the straw where they had been lying was red hot. It's a decent dry and raised kennel with no draft at all, a good 18 inches of straw bedding and 2 dogs together. They are honestly like toast and I don't want to introduce unnecessary artificial heat when they have got good coats and seem to handle being outside well. Would there coats become poorer like that of a dog kept indoors? Would they feel the cold more in the day when the heat source is turned off at 8am and it's still really cold? These are just a couple of the questions I haven't answered yet and hence why I'm holding off. Money isn't an issue and nor is the power source. As said I've got the armoured cable in place. I think you are right to go on what your dogs are telling you. If they look warm and happy thats it,but remember it can go colder some years and a few years ago we had 13below. Two dogs make a great difference but if you lost one and temps plummit then youve got a cold dog. The worst for me is a cold wet dog back from work.Possibly hes lost some blood aswell.He needs a good warm meal and some heat on him in the form of a heat lamp for me because its the nearest thing to the sun warming you through. Ive got bullx dogs with very short coats,and I know when they are feeling the cold because like you I just observe them. Dont quite understand why you would turn heat off at 8 though.Mines on all the time the dogs in kennel.When they go out they are active and when they go back theyve got the heat again. I dont keep heat on saplings that are carrying a bit of fat (not too much) and bed together but dogs that are being worked and carrying little body fat and have short coat can benefit,but its not necessary. They also seem to suffer less from rheumatism in old age. My post was based on everyday kennelling, not for a dog that is wet, injured or suffering from blood loss. Sure this would require additional care. I also assumed that most people use the heat lamps on a timer. I've never heard of anyone using a heat lamp 24/7 during the winter months. That's a first for me. My dogs spend the night in the house after lamping, i can keep an eye on them, dry them, clean them up and they can spread out on a big quilt. But I don't have the heating blasting, I keep it cool. Same for a retired dog suffering rheumatism, it would be indoors My kennels are a brick building with a tiled roof like a house.Dogs live there and eat there and treated there.Its all contained including kitchen and sick room. Dogs are heated individually as needed until the outsider temp come up. I would definitely use a heat lamp or heat tube if my dogs were in a big brick building with a tiled roof. It all depends on circumstances I think. Not black or white. Too many lads worry about heat lamps when other stuff isn't in order. Drafty or damp kennels, putting dogs away wet and muddy, feeding poor grub etc. 1 Quote Link to post
buster gonads 862 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Good point Gaz. Quote Link to post
king 11,984 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Dogs don't need it.good diet draught free kennel.job done. Home from lamping on a cold wet night, a cold dog uses alot of energy to get and keep warm, if i can help it out i will.I wouldn't put a wet dog in a kennel in winter mate.it would be towel dried first.Then into a pile of straw in the kennel. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not currently using anything. I've got a length of armoured cable in place which I sourced last week ready to connect to a tube heater but not ordered the heater yet. I just aren't convinced they need it. I got in from work at 3am this morning. -3c on the car thermometer. Went up to the kennel and both dogs were warm to the touch and the straw where they had been lying was red hot. It's a decent dry and raised kennel with no draft at all, a good 18 inches of straw bedding and 2 dogs together. They are honestly like toast and I don't want to introduce unnecessary artificial heat when they have got good coats and seem to handle being outside well. Would there coats become poorer like that of a dog kept indoors? Would they feel the cold more in the day when the heat source is turned off at 8am and it's still really cold? These are just a couple of the questions I haven't answered yet and hence why I'm holding off. Money isn't an issue and nor is the power source. As said I've got the armoured cable in place. I think you are right to go on what your dogs are telling you. If they look warm and happy thats it,but remember it can go colder some years and a few years ago we had 13below. Two dogs make a great difference but if you lost one and temps plummit then youve got a cold dog. The worst for me is a cold wet dog back from work.Possibly hes lost some blood aswell.He needs a good warm meal and some heat on him in the form of a heat lamp for me because its the nearest thing to the sun warming you through. Ive got bullx dogs with very short coats,and I know when they are feeling the cold because like you I just observe them. Dont quite understand why you would turn heat off at 8 though.Mines on all the time the dogs in kennel.When they go out they are active and when they go back theyve got the heat again. I dont keep heat on saplings that are carrying a bit of fat (not too much) and bed together but dogs that are being worked and carrying little body fat and have short coat can benefit,but its not necessary. They also seem to suffer less from rheumatism in old age. My post was based on everyday kennelling, not for a dog that is wet, injured or suffering from blood loss. Sure this would require additional care.I also assumed that most people use the heat lamps on a timer. I've never heard of anyone using a heat lamp 24/7 during the winter months. That's a first for me. My dogs spend the night in the house after lamping, i can keep an eye on them, dry them, clean them up and they can spread out on a big quilt. But I don't have the heating blasting, I keep it cool. Same for a retired dog suffering rheumatism, it would be indoors My kennels are a brick building with a tiled roof like a house.Dogs live there and eat there and treated there.Its all contained including kitchen and sick room. Dogs are heated individually as needed until the outsider temp come up. I would definitely use a heat lamp or heat tube if my dogs were in a big brick building with a tiled roof. It all depends on circumstances I think. Not black or white. Too many lads worry about heat lamps when other stuff isn't in order. Drafty or damp kennels, putting dogs away wet and muddy, feeding poor grub etc. My kennels are the same as above basically a house lol whatever the temperature is outside it's generally a bit colder inside so my heat lamp stays on 24/7 when needed ... At the other end of the build is my log burner and that stays lit 24/7 also to keep the place from freezing up ....... 2 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not currently using anything. I've got a length of armoured cable in place which I sourced last week ready to connect to a tube heater but not ordered the heater yet. I just aren't convinced they need it. I got in from work at 3am this morning. -3c on the car thermometer. Went up to the kennel and both dogs were warm to the touch and the straw where they had been lying was red hot. It's a decent dry and raised kennel with no draft at all, a good 18 inches of straw bedding and 2 dogs together. They are honestly like toast and I don't want to introduce unnecessary artificial heat when they have got good coats and seem to handle being outside well. Would there coats become poorer like that of a dog kept indoors? Would they feel the cold more in the day when the heat source is turned off at 8am and it's still really cold? These are just a couple of the questions I haven't answered yet and hence why I'm holding off. Money isn't an issue and nor is the power source. As said I've got the armoured cable in place. I think you are right to go on what your dogs are telling you. If they look warm and happy thats it,but remember it can go colder some years and a few years ago we had 13below. Two dogs make a great difference but if you lost one and temps plummit then youve got a cold dog. The worst for me is a cold wet dog back from work.Possibly hes lost some blood aswell.He needs a good warm meal and some heat on him in the form of a heat lamp for me because its the nearest thing to the sun warming you through. Ive got bullx dogs with very short coats,and I know when they are feeling the cold because like you I just observe them. Dont quite understand why you would turn heat off at 8 though.Mines on all the time the dogs in kennel.When they go out they are active and when they go back theyve got the heat again. I dont keep heat on saplings that are carrying a bit of fat (not too much) and bed together but dogs that are being worked and carrying little body fat and have short coat can benefit,but its not necessary. They also seem to suffer less from rheumatism in old age. My post was based on everyday kennelling, not for a dog that is wet, injured or suffering from blood loss. Sure this would require additional care.I also assumed that most people use the heat lamps on a timer. I've never heard of anyone using a heat lamp 24/7 during the winter months. That's a first for me. My dogs spend the night in the house after lamping, i can keep an eye on them, dry them, clean them up and they can spread out on a big quilt. But I don't have the heating blasting, I keep it cool. Same for a retired dog suffering rheumatism, it would be indoors My kennels are a brick building with a tiled roof like a house.Dogs live there and eat there and treated there.Its all contained including kitchen and sick room. Dogs are heated individually as needed until the outsider temp come up.I would definitely use a heat lamp or heat tube if my dogs were in a big brick building with a tiled roof.It all depends on circumstances I think. Not black or white. Too many lads worry about heat lamps when other stuff isn't in order. Drafty or damp kennels, putting dogs away wet and muddy, feeding poor grub etc. My kennels are the same as above basically a house lol whatever the temperature is outside it's generally a bit colder inside so my heat lamp stays on 24/7 when needed ... At the other end of the build is my log burner and that stays lit 24/7 also to keep the place from freezing up ....... You will be telling me they've got a sofa in there next. Lol Quote Link to post
leethedog 3,071 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 My kennel has a radiator in it and underfloor heating supplied by a green house heater cable and the mrs has just put some certains on it haha Quote Link to post
Flacko 1,755 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Bang on socks log burner waiting to fire up can't beat after a rough day/ night I get on rocking chair and drop off as well atb Flacko 1 Quote Link to post
bunnyboiler 1,054 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I tried a tube heater from Argos a few year ago,,,fecking pants,,,a few inches away you couldn't feel anything...maybe just the Argos one... Heat lamp with a ceramic bulb,,,apart from this winter with it being mild,,,mine are on 24/7 from November till,,it warms up,,usually March The bigger the watts the hotter sounds like it was a low wattage one mate Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm not currently using anything. I've got a length of armoured cable in place which I sourced last week ready to connect to a tube heater but not ordered the heater yet. I just aren't convinced they need it. I got in from work at 3am this morning. -3c on the car thermometer. Went up to the kennel and both dogs were warm to the touch and the straw where they had been lying was red hot. It's a decent dry and raised kennel with no draft at all, a good 18 inches of straw bedding and 2 dogs together. They are honestly like toast and I don't want to introduce unnecessary artificial heat when they have got good coats and seem to handle being outside well. Would there coats become poorer like that of a dog kept indoors? Would they feel the cold more in the day when the heat source is turned off at 8am and it's still really cold? These are just a couple of the questions I haven't answered yet and hence why I'm holding off. Money isn't an issue and nor is the power source. As said I've got the armoured cable in place. I think you are right to go on what your dogs are telling you. If they look warm and happy thats it,but remember it can go colder some years and a few years ago we had 13below. Two dogs make a great difference but if you lost one and temps plummit then youve got a cold dog. The worst for me is a cold wet dog back from work.Possibly hes lost some blood aswell.He needs a good warm meal and some heat on him in the form of a heat lamp for me because its the nearest thing to the sun warming you through. Ive got bullx dogs with very short coats,and I know when they are feeling the cold because like you I just observe them. Dont quite understand why you would turn heat off at 8 though.Mines on all the time the dogs in kennel.When they go out they are active and when they go back theyve got the heat again. I dont keep heat on saplings that are carrying a bit of fat (not too much) and bed together but dogs that are being worked and carrying little body fat and have short coat can benefit,but its not necessary. They also seem to suffer less from rheumatism in old age. My post was based on everyday kennelling, not for a dog that is wet, injured or suffering from blood loss. Sure this would require additional care.I also assumed that most people use the heat lamps on a timer. I've never heard of anyone using a heat lamp 24/7 during the winter months. That's a first for me. My dogs spend the night in the house after lamping, i can keep an eye on them, dry them, clean them up and they can spread out on a big quilt. But I don't have the heating blasting, I keep it cool. Same for a retired dog suffering rheumatism, it would be indoors My kennels are a brick building with a tiled roof like a house.Dogs live there and eat there and treated there.Its all contained including kitchen and sick room. Dogs are heated individually as needed until the outsider temp come up.I would definitely use a heat lamp or heat tube if my dogs were in a big brick building with a tiled roof.It all depends on circumstances I think. Not black or white. Too many lads worry about heat lamps when other stuff isn't in order. Drafty or damp kennels, putting dogs away wet and muddy, feeding poor grub etc. My kennels are the same as above basically a house lol whatever the temperature is outside it's generally a bit colder inside so my heat lamp stays on 24/7 when needed ... At the other end of the build is my log burner and that stays lit 24/7 also to keep the place from freezing up ....... You will be telling me they've got a sofa in there next. Lol Funny you should say that ...... 4 Quote Link to post
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