Deker 3,478 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Fair comment, and no doubt (hopefully) it will shoot and feel better, but you still only have 12ft lb just like any other air rifle. Fine for some, but if you want a decent rifle who on earth would start with an Ultra anyway?! Just an opinion. ERRRR some one like little hunter started shooting at the age of 8 to small to carry a bigger rifle around (even throw he could shoot a hw100, raider, hw97, pro sport and so on with precise accuracy out to 40 yrds off a bench at the range ) But not to hunt with as most are to big and heavy for him and the ultra suits him down to the ground and will hold its own with the top rifles costing double the price of a new ultra and will last him for years to come and then some And not every one has top of the range money to spend on a top of the range rifle BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT TOP OF THE RANGE by up grading it just like vm has and i am going to do to little hunters ultra And iv had ALL THE TOP OF THE RANGE AIR RIFLES in spring and pcp apart from daystate rifles as i cant seem to justify £800 to £2000 plus on a air rifle That a £399 ultra will out shoot every time And will be in your gun cabinet every time you need it and not at daystates factory getting fix,d Dont judge all ultras just because you had a bad apple I had a bad apple in the bsa scorpion sent back to bsa twice just like yours they sent me a new one to replace it never had any bother with it at all. Just got the ultra back from the RFD,s as it was leaking air had a full new seal kit put in her and its sorted The one thing that lets the ultra down is the air cylinder 30 shots So yes im getting one fitted so he has more shots up to 90 from 30 and thats a plus and well worth doing and yes 30 shots is more than enough out in the field but i take him to the range a lot to practice and you get sick of having to fill the bloody thing up lol We all do things to our rifles whether its air or shell there is all ways some thing we want to do to make them better THINGS THAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE IN THE FACTORY'S before they hit the shops. thats why there are lads out there like xtx air and Carl that can make the rifles better the way they should be from the start atvbmac :thumbs: Good grief, you are taking my comments out of context, of course the Ultra has its uses, but if the changes you suggest should be done in the first place were implemented, it would cost more to start with, and put it into a league where other rifles may be considered. "We all do things to our rifles whether its air or shell there is all ways some thing we want to do to make them better" No we don't, some of us spend a bit of time considering what we need and then buy it. My point was simple, I just don't see starting with an Ultra and spending £2-3-400 tricking it up to make it a decent gun. If you want a better gun, invest that to start with on a better gun. If you simply want to personalise a gun that's another matter. Like I said.... Just an opinion. I'm not trying to start an International incident! Edited January 29, 2016 by Deker 2 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 What i am saying is ,you do not need to spend any money on the ultra ,its a very good gun in it's own right 1 Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 29, 2016 Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) What i am saying is ,you do not need to spend any money on the ultra ,its a very good gun in it's own right There may be some that will give you an argument on that, but that is not what I'm saying. My comments all along have been based on starting with an Ultra and spending a load of money on it to improve it! ......NOT to personalise it! Edited January 29, 2016 by Deker Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2016 What i am saying is ,you do not need to spend any money on the ultra ,its a very good gun in it's own right There may be some that will give you an argument on that, but that is not what I'm saying. My comments all along have been based on starting with an Ultra and spending a load of money on it to improve it! ......NOT to personalise it! i think we will leave it at that then 2 Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,806 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 So do you think a scorpion tac stock would fit Mitch if you have a longer air cylinder on atvbmac :thumbs: Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 That i dont know Quote Link to post
philpot 5,013 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I think that Si Pittaway had a Scorpion stock fitted to his Ultra Mac when he had a full Ratworks makeover. Have a look on Vermin Hunters under ratworks reaper. Phil 1 Quote Link to post
philpot 5,013 Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 Here you go Mac, I was right they have fitted a Scorpian stock. Phil Quote Link to post
bigmac 97kt 13,806 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 I through,t you could Phil so it looks like a shroud longer air cylinder, and scorpion stock is on the cards up to now and i like the big bolt to its going to transform little hunters ultra just need to sell the raider now ? atvbmac :thumbs: 1 Quote Link to post
xraiderx 94 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 Here's mine Tenched + Ratworks Hubb shroud 325mm cylinder Matts stock Love it. 2 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted February 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I think that Si Pittaway had a Scorpion stock fitted to his Ultra Mac when he had a full Ratworks makeover. Have a look on Vermin Hunters under ratworks reaper. Phil If you have a look at my stock on the photos ,you will see its longer than the wood stock on the SE ,the SE tactical ones are like the scorpion Quote Link to post
philpot 5,013 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I didn't know there was a difference between wood and tactical stocks Mitch, I wonder why, you would think an Ultra stock was the same for all models. Handy to know that. Phil Quote Link to post
Stoater 21 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Well, I dropped off my .177 Ultra SE with Carl yesterday. I will next be in the area in about a fortnight's time, and can't wait for the result! Without prompting, Carl spent over 30 mins explaining how my rifle worked, and how it could be improved. He showed me all the new parts he intends to fit (all made by himself on site), and how they fitted into my gun. You could clearly see his enthusiasm, technical knowledge and engineering skill, and pure commitment to open and honest customer service. The proof will be in the pudding, but I have every confidence my already decent rifle will become something rather special. I will report back in due course. 2 Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Mac Why don't you look for a scorpion, as a alternative, And sell the ultra Just a thought mate Atb Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted February 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Well, I dropped off my .177 Ultra SE with Carl yesterday. I will next be in the area in about a fortnight's time, and can't wait for the result! Without prompting, Carl spent over 30 mins explaining how my rifle worked, and how it could be improved. He showed me all the new parts he intends to fit (all made by himself on site), and how they fitted into my gun. You could clearly see his enthusiasm, technical knowledge and engineering skill, and pure commitment to open and honest customer service. The proof will be in the pudding, but I have every confidence my already decent rifle will become something rather special. I will report back in due course. You will love it mate when it comes back Quote Link to post
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