Slippery_Weasel 460 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Obviously I don't speed when I'm driving, but if I did, I could have been done twice in less than a week locally to me. Each time a car coming the other way has flashed his lights to alert my side of the road of the presence of a detector van further down the road. I understand the speed camera detectors you fit in your car can "see" the laser from the speed camera and warn you of it, surely once the detector has spotted the beam, the camera has spotted you? Do they both only see in straight lines? If so, are they any use on the bendy roads we have? I don't get it, I've not read all the responses so may be repeating.They work in two ways firstly with a database of camera locations and likely locations for mobile cameras. Then there is the laser beam detector thing... I used to use a road angel for a couple of years while doing high mileage, the laser detector only ever went off once in that time... The laser detector can only detect the laser when the copper already has a bead on you... Which In my opinion is too late.. I only use the camera locations thingy on my tom tom now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 There has been tv programmes made with horrendous drivers, reality tv stuff. All fun and laughing. Facts are your driving around in a chunk of metal weighing about a tonne and its lethal. If you can't handle it correctly or your scared to drive anywhere you should not pass your test. The speed limits are a joke on certain sections of road, farcical almost. It's on a par with the drink drive limit....nothing to do with safety just money making. Annoying!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,783 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I went on one of those speed awareness courses about a year ago. In the class of 22 people, half knew the speed limit for a car on a motorway. The other half was split between 60mph and 80mph. That's appalling. Oh yes, and ONE person out of the 22 (me) knew what the National speed limit sign was and what it meant. :icon_eek:w Walshie,did you think the course was any good?Mine was about 5 year ago ,after some classroom stuff in the morning ,we were paired up and went out ont the road with driving instructors for a couple of hours,i thought it was really good ,bit of a refresher. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I went on one of those speed awareness courses about a year ago. In the class of 22 people, half knew the speed limit for a car on a motorway. The other half was split between 60mph and 80mph. That's appalling. Oh yes, and ONE person out of the 22 (me) knew what the National speed limit sign was and what it meant. :icon_eek:w Walshie,did you think the course was any good?Mine was about 5 year ago ,after some classroom stuff in the morning ,we were paired up and went out ont the road with driving instructors for a couple of hours,i thought it was really good ,bit of a refresher. Ours was purely classroom stuff. I think it could have been OK if they didn't have to lower the level of the discussion to the level of some of the morons there. The guys holding the course seemed to know their stuff, but were stifled by having to go back to the basics. One woman thought the speed limit where there were streetlights but no signs was only 30mph "if the streetlights were a certain distance apart." But she couldn't tell you what this imaginary distance was supposed to be or how you were supposed to measure it. Scary thought to be sharing the road with people like that. Better than 3 points though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Driving is one of those things that exposes the gulf between your ambitions and your capabilities........ I have always found it extraordinary that I could pass my test at 17, and I am immediately given a license that's valid until I'm an old man ! Then, while the ink on my new license is wet, I can get into my car and drive unsupervised at 70 mph on a motorway, with no additional training. I most dislike the "my car does 120, therefore I will drive at 120 and feck everyone else....and anyway I've had a license for XX years and that makes me Lewis Hamilton" brigade. The proper way to reduce road casualties is to improve driver training. And that involves having some thought and respect for other road users ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,916 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Driving is one of those things that exposes the gulf between your ambitions and your capabilities........ I have always found it extraordinary that I could pass my test at 17, and I am immediately given a license that's valid until I'm an old man ! Then, while the ink on my new license is wet, I can get into my car and drive unsupervised at 70 mph on a motorway, with no additional training. I most dislike the "my car does 120, therefore I will drive at 120 and feck everyone else....and anyway I've had a license for XX years and that makes me Lewis Hamilton" brigade. The proper way to reduce road casualties is to improve driver training. And that involves having some thought and respect for other road users ! true, but they don't , most get behind the wheel , and leave the common sense in the house not in the car 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i would guess that most money made in speeding fines is the people doing 35-6 in a 30mph zone,i did a speeding course for exactly that and out of 24 people only one had been done on a motorway,and that was in a section with a tempoary 50mph restriction,(incase anyone hit one of the cones that that stretched for a couple of miles) As you say Lab ,stricter rules on passing test ,once your 60 years old a refresher every 2 years ,just try and get a better standard of driver on the roads! Yeh you're right, better eduction is required, to educate people like yourself why that 50 zone is in place. It's not to protect the cones, it's to protect the men and women behind them cones. Nobody ever hits "one of the cones", they skittle half a dozen and at 50mph they don't just knock them over, they send them flying at the lads working just a couple of metres away. Good job a kiddy wasn't crossing the road when your speedo was reading close to 40 in a 30 isn't it. Could of been the difference between him going home or not. Don't get me wrong I like to get my toe down, but there's a time and a place. In built up areas or next to roadworks just ain't it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Observe the speed limit and its not an issue ! It's a limit, not a target ! But some of the 'limits' are nonsense and do not represent what the cars can do now... tell that to little bobby's family image.jpg atb AT No doubt an absolute nightmare if a child has lost his life. I'm more talking about motorways to be fair, I whole heartedly agree that slow limits should be adhered too in the town. I'd still argue that 20 is a bit slow and it's not the speed it's the concentration of the driver that's at fault. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,080 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i would guess that most money made in speeding fines is the people doing 35-6 in a 30mph zone,i did a speeding course for exactly that and out of 24 people only one had been done on a motorway,and that was in a section with a tempoary 50mph restriction,(incase anyone hit one of the cones that that stretched for a couple of miles) As you say Lab ,stricter rules on passing test ,once your 60 years old a refresher every 2 years ,just try and get a better standard of driver on the roads! Yeh you're right, better eduction is required, to educate people like yourself why that 50 zone is in place. It's not to protect the cones, it's to protect the men and women behind them cones. Nobody ever hits "one of the cones", they skittle half a dozen and at 50mph they don't just knock them over, they send them flying at the lads working just a couple of metres away. Good job a kiddy wasn't crossing the road when your speedo was reading close to 40 in a 30 isn't it. Could of been the difference between him going home or not. Don't get me wrong I like to get my toe down, but there's a time and a place. In built up areas or next to roadworks just ain't it. that might be understandable if there was anyone actually bloody working there, no matter what day of the week its, no matter what time of day it is, most of the coned off sections will have nobody within sight for weeks on end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 i would guess that most money made in speeding fines is the people doing 35-6 in a 30mph zone,i did a speeding course for exactly that and out of 24 people only one had been done on a motorway,and that was in a section with a tempoary 50mph restriction,(incase anyone hit one of the cones that that stretched for a couple of miles) As you say Lab ,stricter rules on passing test ,once your 60 years old a refresher every 2 years ,just try and get a better standard of driver on the roads! Yeh you're right, better eduction is required, to educate people like yourself why that 50 zone is in place. It's not to protect the cones, it's to protect the men and women behind them cones. Nobody ever hits "one of the cones", they skittle half a dozen and at 50mph they don't just knock them over, they send them flying at the lads working just a couple of metres away. Good job a kiddy wasn't crossing the road when your speedo was reading close to 40 in a 30 isn't it. Could of been the difference between him going home or not. Don't get me wrong I like to get my toe down, but there's a time and a place. In built up areas or next to roadworks just ain't it. that might be understandable if there was anyone actually bloody working there, no matter what day of the week its, no matter what time of day it is, most of the coned off sections will have nobody within sight for weeks on end That's absolute nonsense mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tb25 4,627 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Ya gaz..stop coming on here and sleeping when you should be working.. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the driving test should be a lot more difficult its just unrealistic to think that everyone can pass it......being a good driver is just not something every single one of us will be,thats basic logic.......im not the greatest driver in the world but i drive well enough to pass a test......but i remember when my daughter first passed her test and i bought her a car i couldnt believe how bad she drove......the thought that she could of legally got behind the wheel of a 180mph supercar is absoutely ridiculous ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the driving test should be a lot more difficult its just unrealistic to think that everyone can pass it......being a good driver is just not something every single one of us will be,thats basic logic.......im not the greatest driver in the world but i drive well enough to pass a test......but i remember when my daughter first passed her test and i bought her a car i couldnt believe how bad she drove......the thought that she could of legally got behind the wheel of a 180mph supercar is absoutely ridiculous ! Good point gnash. My missus has had a driving licence for 20 years and I still won't let her drive on a motorway. Even being in the car while she is joining a dual carriageway is a scary experience. She hardly drives these days. For her own safety and the safety of others. It's not for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the driving test should be a lot more difficult its just unrealistic to think that everyone can pass it......being a good driver is just not something every single one of us will be,thats basic logic.......im not the greatest driver in the world but i drive well enough to pass a test......but i remember when my daughter first passed her test and i bought her a car i couldnt believe how bad she drove......the thought that she could of legally got behind the wheel of a 180mph supercar is absoutely ridiculous ! Good point gnash. My missus has had a driving licence for 20 years and I still won't let her drive on a motorway. Even being in the car while she is joining a dual carriageway is a scary experience. She hardly drives these days. For her own safety and the safety of others. It's not for everyone. You "won't let her?" who said chauvinism was dead? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think the driving test should be a lot more difficult its just unrealistic to think that everyone can pass it......being a good driver is just not something every single one of us will be,thats basic logic.......im not the greatest driver in the world but i drive well enough to pass a test......but i remember when my daughter first passed her test and i bought her a car i couldnt believe how bad she drove......the thought that she could of legally got behind the wheel of a 180mph supercar is absoutely ridiculous !Good point gnash. My missus has had a driving licence for 20 years and I still won't let her drive on a motorway. Even being in the car while she is joining a dual carriageway is a scary experience. She hardly drives these days. For her own safety and the safety of others. It's not for everyone. You "won't let her?" who said chauvinism was dead? Lol. She does as she's told and I do as I please. The way it should be. Hahaha. Nothing worse than them independent women with their own thoughts and ideas ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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