Recall Advice

[Casso 1,261]

The only basic training a dog needs is for me to make the dog believe the sun shines out of my ass end, I manage him so he can't f**k up and I make him believe my voice turns the world

He's born social , I just keep him that way

[desertbred 5,490]

Over damatiisation "Knock some sense into it" ffs you writing a a script for a film or trying to bond with a pup.?.Dogs are pack animals by history and nature.not a group the human environment has been introduced into the canines life and the canine has to adapt to become part of a domestic environment. If it doesnt then that develops into dogs that attack and bite that is natural , dogs that are not socialised are a liability if not trained properly and an untrained dog is heading for the bullet . Every one has their own ways. mine have been handed down for generations and dogs work from natural instinct especially hunting dogs you just have to coax it out of them . When has shouting been part of training a dog ? A working dog needs to have trust and a bond as for the rest a line bred hunting dog teaches us about hunting not the other way round, thats from experience not a book or a DVD.

Edited January 12, 2016 by desertbred

[Casso 1,261]

Does a dog need to be disciplined to be social and fit into life with humans , yes or no, ??

Does it need to or is there something in you that feels it needs to

[Falconer77 52]

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Edited January 18, 2016 by Falconer77

[Leesy 35]

She's still young and obviously isnt mentally mature enough for the lamping game yet pal. Dont beat yourself up, and dont get stressed with her, it'll only make matters worse. Dogs learn best through positive associations not negative.

I'd go right back to basics pal, do retrieving work in the garden, and use rewards. Positive reinforcement is the way forward.

Tug games are a no no for lots of folks but its actually a very good starting block for getting a retrieve to hand.

Have a mess about and tease her with the dummy. When she grabs it have a bit of a tug then ask her to leave it. Praise her when she does and reward with a tiny titbit. If she doesnt let go just keep hold until she does...Do Not let her win!! Reward her when she leaves go and make a real fuss of her.

After doing that a few times throw the dummy out on the line, only a couple meters, and tell her to fetch it in. Remember you have control of it on the line, so if she doesnt fetch it give it a tug, let the line loose and tell her again. Make sure u are exciting to her too, if you are too stern at this early stage she wont come in, act like a kid and prance about a bit calling her in. She'll probably lollop about but eventually she'll bring it to you. Then just keep up the game until she's bringing it i every time, and dont forget to praize her lavishly, she'll love it and thats what you want.

I've also used clicker training a lot when training dogs. If you are unsure of what it is read up on it or pm me and i'll point you in the right direction. Its all about being positive pal.

[Leesy 35]

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Edited January 12, 2016 by Leesy

[Leesy 35]

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Edited January 12, 2016 by Leesy

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Lemans term. I have to be honest here the collie x was my first Lurcher, back in 1958 I was 14 years old still at school, I wrote about this before, Now this is the crunch,

I learned with that dog by listening to older and far more experienced men, as time went on, with other dogs, I was still wanting instant coffee, but nature does not work like that, you get your pup educate him to the country side let him be a pup, the first year of that dogs life is so important, you have schooled him/her to recall, carry back to you, jump go through obstacles, and pick-up a few rabbits, he is 12 months old, everybody seems to think he or she should be working like a champion, they have only come out of the Nursery school, 2nd season rising two, they are maturing into a very nice animal,doing thinks that are putting a smile on your face, ((( thats if they are decent, and they are flying, pace, balanced and a very good strike, you come home with a smile on your face, 3 year old

now you have something, Running crafty, = first year only a baby, learning his job, 2nd year you know what you have, he may not be a world beater but he pleases you the owner, he does not need to please anyone else, only the owner, = 3rd year you have the dog, you are reaping all the benefits, of the time and patience and work you have put into them,Now if I had a Saluki x in my young years I would have destroyed him, by wanting instant coffee, Now I am relaxed A should be next birthday 70, but still able to walk my dogs and have a bit of fun with them, Rome was not built in a day, Bye borderland wise words

Fantastic post that ??

[J Darcy 5,871]

Some good advice on this thread.

However, it is worth mentioning that saluki lurchers do not think like other lurchers more often than not.

Often they won't play tug, they are not naturally man friendly in some cases.

You've got to get into their head, but once you're there then it's all peaches and cream.....

[paulsmithy83 567]

never a truer word j darcy they dont think like other dogs. i love there ferral type nature and once you click together your have a very bidable dog

[Declan. 318]

Had Lurchers in my family all my life but recently had one of my own now 10months he has saluki in him and as you said darcy he's not interested in tug games what so ever, but reading what others have put about how it helps bonding etc what would you suggest helps with bonding other than tug games with saluki x's Atb

[Casso 1,261]

A dog is a dog is a dog, they all shit , eat and shag in a familiar fashion, how they differ is temperment, from a rottie to an itialian greyhound, they are only tuned into different vibrations of movement ,

 

On here you will hear my dog won't play this or play that, no he may not but just because he won't doesn't mean he can't or he wouldn't have , dogs who have a history of expressing prey instinct in a certain fashion on a certain prey animal are channeled to a certain vibration of prey shape form and movement, that's how dogs become masters in their craft , they don't learn by thinking they learn by movement of prey,

 

When dogs have tuned into a prey item it becomes how they express themselves with us, it's how they bond , we become part of the good feeling of the hunt , for a saluki there is no better feeling than running , through running he can feel his heart his lungs, the collection and the propulsion of his body through his legs is as good as it gets for a dog breed for this sole purpose,

so when someone says "my dog won't interact with me through tug play he must think differently than all other dogs" hes no different , he will only entertain the real thing, a tug item is a shallow replacement for the complete expression of his very being while on the chase , he still trying to get his mouth around something through an interaction with you,

 

Tug play is up close and personal and difficult for some dogs born without hard temperaments, Bulldogs take to tug items a lot easier than Sakuli breeds it's all in how they relate to the world

[J Darcy 5,871]

A dog is a dog is a dog, they all shit , eat and shag in a familiar fashion, how they differ is temperment, from a rottie to an itialian greyhound, they are only tuned into different vibrations of movement ,

 

On here you will hear my dog won't play this or play that, no he may not but just because he won't doesn't mean he can't or he wouldn't have , dogs who have a history of expressing prey instinct in a certain fashion on a certain prey animal are channeled to a certain vibration of prey shape form and movement, that's how dogs become masters in their craft , they don't learn by thinking they learn by movement of prey,

 

When dogs have tuned into a prey item it becomes how they express themselves with us, it's how they bond , we become part of the good feeling of the hunt , for a saluki there is no better feeling than running , through running he can feel his heart his lungs, the collection and the propulsion of his body through his legs is as good as it gets for a dog breed for this sole purpose,

so when someone says "my dog won't interact with me through tug play he must think differently than all other dogs" hes no different , he will only entertain the real thing, a tug item is a shallow replacement for the complete expression of his very being while on the chase , he still trying to get his mouth around something through an interaction with you,

 

Tug play is up close and personal and difficult for some dogs born without hard temperaments, Bulldogs take to tug items a lot easier than Sakuli breeds it's all in how they relate to the world

Have you trained many saluki lurchers buddy?

[Falconer77 52]

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Edited January 18, 2016 by Falconer77

[Casso 1,261]

 

A dog is a dog is a dog, they all shit , eat and shag in a familiar fashion, how they differ is temperment, from a rottie to an itialian greyhound, they are only tuned into different vibrations of movement ,

On here you will hear my dog won't play this or play that, no he may not but just because he won't doesn't mean he can't or he wouldn't have , dogs who have a history of expressing prey instinct in a certain fashion on a certain prey animal are channeled to a certain vibration of prey shape form and movement, that's how dogs become masters in their craft , they don't learn by thinking they learn by movement of prey,

When dogs have tuned into a prey item it becomes how they express themselves with us, it's how they bond , we become part of the good feeling of the hunt , for a saluki there is no better feeling than running , through running he can feel his heart his lungs, the collection and the propulsion of his body through his legs is as good as it gets for a dog breed for this sole purpose,

so when someone says "my dog won't interact with me through tug play he must think differently than all other dogs" hes no different , he will only entertain the real thing, a tug item is a shallow replacement for the complete expression of his very being while on the chase , he still trying to get his mouth around something through an interaction with you,

Tug play is up close and personal and difficult for some dogs born without hard temperaments, Bulldogs take to tug items a lot easier than Sakuli breeds it's all in how they relate to the world

 

Have you trained many saluki lurchers buddy?

Yes buddy ,