Mark r 208 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Hi I'm just after some help iv borrowed an airarms s400 carbine single shot for shooting a few rats in the garden. it has a hawk mill dot scope mounted and I got given a tin of sovereign pellets the kid said it just need zeroing so I thought easy enough. I had a few shots at a target about 30yards away and to be honest the grouping is crap, it started off ok I adjusted it as in needed to be about 1.5 inch down and 2 inch to the right. I took the caps off the scope and tried adjusting it and they were adjusted up fully the way I wanted to go. So my question is could the scope be mounted wrong? Are the pellets poor? I don't think I'm doing it wrong as Iv zeroed springers in with scope on before sometimes you can see the pellet totally miss the target. Quote Link to post
stealthy1 3,964 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Try a different make of pellets and see how you get on. 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Try AA fields 1 Quote Link to post
jonnie bravo 572 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 A bit of extra info will help bud what cal? What pressure are you filling to and how many shots are you doing per fill? Are the mounts loose? Quote Link to post
David.evans 5,323 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'd say it's the mounts mate Take the scope of and put the windage and elevations back to zero Look at the mounts and see if there level ( may be not level ) Pellets could also be clipping to the mod , try to zero with out it on Go back to basics and start again Atb 1 Quote Link to post
villaman 9,983 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just read your post again , like David said start again with the scope ,if you have run out of adjustment it could be the mounts not on probably or the wrong way round Quote Link to post
barrywhite 282 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 check your fill pressure is above 110 bar 150 would be better . get better pellets . what you describe may be a bit more of a problem . If the scope adjustment is all used up there could be something wrong with the scope or the mounts or the barrel could be bent down . If your gun is full of air and the gun groups well you could adjust your shooting you know where the shot goes on the scope so just shoot there . A fix for the problem maybe move the front scope mount to the rear and the rear mount to the front . Or what would be my first thing to try put some packing in the rear scope mount under the scope tin foil or some film from a camera . Quote Link to post
j j m 6,536 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 i use air arms pellets in most of my air arms guns Quote Link to post
The one 8,466 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Check the easiest first are all the mounts tight ?. then I would try air arms field diablos then start on the scope Quote Link to post
Mark r 208 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks lads. And barry white you were right mate I took it to the gun shop near me redbeck shooting in Wakefield and the lads were spot on. They tried zeroing it and they had same trouble as I did then they realised the barrel was bent, so they sorted that out for me and the gun had a silencer fitted but the adapt or between the silencer and the barrel was crap and was sending the pellet all over. So the pit a new adapt or in for me and zeroed it it was spot on I was mocking a spinning target bout the size of a £2 piece everytime. The lad at the shop said they probably couldn't be botherd finding a proper adaptor for the barrel and silencer it could of put my mate who's a youg lad of shooting for good. The rifle much more enjoyable to shoot now 2 Quote Link to post
Newlife2 55 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Just a thought Mark, if its rats your after zero at the range you will be shooting at , in my case that`s about 15 yards max, just a thought , this could make your life easier , not the rats though.. Quote Link to post
toxo 160 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Start again and make sure the crosshairs are in the middle of the range before you start. count the clicks from one end to the other and then turn back to the middle. Do the windage first. You might be asking too much if you're trying to zero too close. Zero at 25/30yds and if the windage is right just use the dots to aim over/under. If it's well out it's the scope or the mounts. I once bought a Bushnell scope and spent an hour getting it just right. Next time I picked it up it was three inches out. Turned out to be a clone. Was able to get my money back though. Decent pellets help. You might get away with shite pellets on rats later but use decent ones to get your set up right. Quote Link to post
Newlife2 55 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I wonder why no one thought of cleaning the barrel? Quote Link to post
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