shealy 176 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was reading an old book I've got last night. The author said she asked a top greyhound trainer about jabbing greyhounds and he said he doesent as it makes greyhounds slower.and kennels he knows who do jab have never had a fast dog. Anyone else heard of that. a good jab up the arse might make ur dog run faster either that or a slap on the bollocks lol 1 Quote Link to post
Raymond 618 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was reading an old book I've got last night. The author said she asked a top greyhound trainer about jabbing greyhounds and he said he doesent as it makes greyhounds slower.and kennels he knows who do jab have never had a fast dog. Anyone else heard of that. a good jab up the arse might make ur dog run faster either that or a slap on the bollocks lol I remeber when we where kids a fella saying if you wanted to get a bit of speed out of a donkey he said stick half an onion up its arse, maybe old wives tail.Never tried it so cant confirm if it works lol Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 They are jabbed to stop them coming into season. It does not effect there running ability in the long term. Have you ever used Delvosteron to suppress a bitches seasons? Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I was reading an old book I've got last night. The author said she asked a top greyhound trainer about jabbing greyhounds and he said he doesent as it makes greyhounds slower.and kennels he knows who do jab have never had a fast dog. Anyone else heard of that. Was told years ago not to believe everything I read, I would say in this case it would've been good advice for you to have been given. Have you heard of greyhound trainers talking about it in the past tote. Never heard anyone mention it before King and I trained greyhounds on the flaps for years so have been amongst them but no not a peep about it. To be honest it's just a load of cack. 1 Quote Link to post
BITCH 135 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I remeber when we where kids a fella saying if you wanted to get a bit of speed out of a donkey he said stick half an onion up its arse, maybe old wives tail.Never tried it so cant confirm if it works lol Lol My uncle used to show welsh cobs, and reckons he stuck pepper up there arse to hold tail up!! Poor c**ts hoops were burning!!! Lol 1 Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 They are jabbed to stop them coming into season. It does not effect there running ability in the long term. Have you ever used Delvosteron to suppress a bitches seasons?I wouldn't pretend to know much about greyhounds. I would however ask my Dad who's spend near on 40 years at flapping tracks to answer that for me. He used to jab bitchies and it never hampered performances long term...?? Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I've no problem with people who have silly ideas that they believe might give them the edge over their opponent but with such a serious issue such as parvo it's sad that in this day and age there's still fools out there who wont inoculate. Let's face it ,through inoculation it's possible to make a disease extinct but when you have halting sites, puppy farms and those who are too miserable to spend a tenner per pup then terrible diseases like parvo will always be around. An uncle of mine was a top greyhound man in his day and he won many big races and coursing competitions. He also bred bitch of the year twice. I remember when I was very young he showed me how to inoculate and worm pups and adults. Was he wasting his time and would his dogs have been even faster ???????? I doubt it. Very well said pal All my dogs are jabbed as pups and even if not having the jab somehow improved their performance personally I wouldn't see the risk/reward ratio as worth it. Quote Link to post
littlefish 587 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm usually slow to ridicule old wives tales because there can often be some truth to them ,but this one IMO is a load of shite. I know many lads who use dogs for different disciplines at top level and because they're responsible dogmen they inoculate. Doesn't stop them winning. Well it comes from the mouth of 1 of the pioneers of feeding a barf diet.And a well respected woman.neil.ive got a book here and have read it since owning it about 15 yrs odd. Which book did the information come from? Quote Link to post
king 11,984 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm usually slow to ridicule old wives tales because there can often be some truth to them ,but this one IMO is a load of shite. I know many lads who use dogs for different disciplines at top level and because they're responsible dogmen they inoculate. Doesn't stop them winning. Well it comes from the mouth of 1 of the pioneers of feeding a barf diet.And a well respected woman.neil.ive got a book here and have read it since owning it about 15 yrs odd. Which book did the information come from? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/352137-juliette-de-bairacli-levy/ Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,881 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Not jabbing a dog for parvo is lunisy imo,rather it not be so quick than watch it die from parvo or worse still recover and be a f***ing cripple,with all the slippery c**ts importing dogs from Europe with false paper work you got to be a fool not to vacinate against things IMHO, iv'e known lads get cheap jabs,and every pup in litter has died from parvo,plenty of dirty fuckers out there keeping dogs in fitly conditions and jabs not in the fridge,if you to tight to pay 30 quid then you should go get a hamster lol.atb dc DC,I think that depends on where you live and how you keep your dogs, all the lads that I've seen with parvo in their kennels have also been knee deep in sh*te and even after burning and replacing everything they've still had it back years later even after the jabs, look at Plummer he was a scruffy dirty bast**d,lost whole litters and adult dogs to it, I know lads in North Wales that kept kennels that were always sh*t high and it ravaged them, same in Crewe,the list is endless, keep clean kennels and feed the best and you will have the best out your dogs, mine live in these days and they are only ever jabbed as a pup,never lost a dog to disease in 45yrs, damp,dirty kennels promote disease,simple as that in my eyes, WMMy kennels are spotless always have and always will,about 14yrs ago I got gastroenteritis through my kennels because of a dirty b*****d further up the street who had kennels knee deep and would only jab his dogs if he felt like it.anyway this is how he works,this day one of his pups was ill and he looks at it this way.he puts the pup in the garage away from the others and puts it food and water in and then looks to say if it's ok tomorrow it should be fine if not tuff shit.the way I look at it if any dog is ill and you don't know what it is take it to the vets ffs this dickhead ended up costing me £750 vet bill over xmas as his pup had died (7mths old) and he had buried it out the back in the fields and I've walk around it for days without even knowing until they picked it up.i asked him were he buried it and his words was it has nothing to do with me.that was like a red rag to a bull this is supposed to be a dog man fecking walker.all of mine were jabbed from pups by the vet so it goes to show you they not always safe weather it's from one of the lads or a vet.out of all my dogs I lost 1 Lakeland bitch which was my sons and my border bitch aborded a belly full of well bred pups so I wasn't very happy. Edited January 6, 2016 by lurchers Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,881 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 If you look at a post on here from a year ago about a Beddiexgreyhound pup I got from Birmingham and it died the vet said it was worms but I had the idea parvo and a lad lost his from the same breeder and his was parvo.a lad gifted my stepson a pup from Scotland and jabbed it while we were picking it up and it caught it a week and a half later.from both pups and fuel costs cost me and the wife £1300 and you get greedy shits won't pay £40 for jabs they shouldn't have dogs in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 They are jabbed to stop them coming into season. It does not effect there running ability in the long term. Have you ever used Delvosteron to suppress a bitches seasons? I wouldn't pretend to know much about greyhounds. I would however ask my Dad who's spend near on 40 years at flapping tracks to answer that for me. He used to jab bitchies and it never hampered performances long term... Likewise I've spent many years on the flapping tracks, have used Duratesan and Laurabollin and never had any issues but that Delvosteron puts them off their running big time, it's happened to a lot of lads that's used it. Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Look at the odds how many champions and how many track record holders have all come from greys who are/were jabbed. Not to jab is idiotic. Enough risk running a lurcher as it is without rolling the dice with disease aswell. 2 Quote Link to post
Jax13 251 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Don't forget your not just jabbing for parvo. Lep is just as bad and for working dogs probably a damn site easier to pick up. Maybe some people like seeing their dogs in absolute crippling agony or crapping out their own lungs before they have to have them put to sleep. Then again, if they won't pay for a jab then they aren't likely to pay for a pts so the dogs in for a bad time either way. Edited January 7, 2016 by Jax13 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm not sure how good a trainer the fellow that Juliette interviewed was ? But, maybe he wanted to stop other folks dogs, it's the only explanation for such bad advice. Mind you, if I wanted to stop other folks dogs the advice I'd have given in a book was "Feed your dog half a pound of cheddar just before the race, never fails." LOL,but it's easier to stop your own dog than others. Quote Link to post
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